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Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:06PM (#20148008)
reCAPTCHA also just doesn't work in the most populous country in the world. translate.google.cn does, but Google's reCAPTCHA does not. This is a big pain point. Thanks for the link to turingtest, I will certainly test it.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by granshaw on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:17PM (#20148105)
To be fair, lots of things on the internet don’t work in the most populous country in the world.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by idoubtit on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:50PM (#20149034)
> the most populous country in the world

The United Nations estimates the current population of China around 50,000 more than the population of India. Given the uncertainty of these numbers, I can't exclude that India already has the most numerous population.

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:56PM (#20149096)
Could be, I don't know. 50,000 is a village in these contexts! I'd really like to explore India, it is, also, vast.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:53PM (#20148458)
You're correct, quite a lot of things are not accessible in the most populous country in the world.

However, federated things are accessible. The big names Facebook/Twitter/Youtube/Google are blocked, and the services below them. However it is a blacklist of blocked not a whitelist of accessible. Putting google analytics traction in a header of a federated blog, meaning it's actually not federated, is indeed a stupid pain. China internet is restricted, but it is only restricted 'enough' for the current power.

Edit: And that seems good enough for now. Wechat 'moments' and use of Tiktok, from my observation of friends or even taking the train, are on a steep decline. Wechat's future seems mainly as a commercial P2Passist or very simple blog platform. Both dropped the ball and mobile payments will not disappear but the tide has turned (NFC, anyone? this was an already solved problem. The only real challenger bank China has is China Merchants Bank but they're after merchants, the clue in the name. For customer service and being one to perhaps pull a rabbit out of the hat, China Construction Bank. I have no idea how BEA didn't grab mobile payments.

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by taf2 on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:00PM (#20148522)
Could it have something to do with the most populous country in the world blocking the rest of the world? For fear someone might massacre square...
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @02:15PM (#20149291)
Hmmm.. ok.. I could and should write something on this a lot longer.

The government facilitate corruption. The government is a hegemony.

Aside from that broad shot, 10 years ago you enter the aforementioned square freely, not only after going through a 'police' security check, bags x-rayed, IDs checked.

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by shawnz on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:10PM (#20148046)
I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:29PM (#20148220)
reCAPTCHA does not work in China mainland (it does in HK, but that's different for now). But translate.google.cn (note the .cn) works fine. Similar visual recaptchs used on Chinese services tend to focus on Chinese characters on a low resolution picture background. Training for street names? I don't know

Resolving to google.com does not resolve (gmail does, a bit, IMAP but only every few hours or days, depending on connection sans VPN).

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by novaleaf on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:16PM (#20148099)
if this is true, I'd love to hear the alternate! I use recaptcha and hate that my chinese customers need to do wacky stuff to circumvent it.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by shawnz on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:35PM (#20148273)
See: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq

Look under the section "use recaptcha globally" -- this is what I was referring to. However it's not clear to me if this approach enables use in China or not.

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by Theodores on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:48PM (#20148401)
Thanks for that. Changing to www.recaptcha.net right now!

Could be a while before I get enquiries from China but there is only one way to find out.

Google did say 'globally'...

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by vinay_ys on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:24PM (#20148171)
Just out of curiosity, why do you use reCaptcha?
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by judge2020 on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:26PM (#20148185)
Not sure if this is "officially" supported but I believe you can proxy the `api.js` file yourself without issue.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:42PM (#20148347)
The photos or voice still needs to come from from somewhere. The somewhere is google.com. The .com is blocked.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by shawnz on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:47PM (#20148392)
Please see my other reply in this thread: "recaptcha.net" can also be used. Is that blocked in China too? I can't find a clear answer.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by fasthandle on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:07PM (#20148604)
I pinged recapture.net and got a 50ms response time. Baidu would give a 20ms response time. That's on WiFi. That leads me to think the server responding to these pings is in certainly in mainland China, I think in Alibaba's IP range, but probably not a CDN. Interesting, thanks.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by baybal2 on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:15PM (#20148702)
I find it ironic that out of all things google, it was translate.google.cn to be given an exemption. There is a meme going around that this was country's chief censor's personal decision.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by dmitrygr on Monday June 10, 2019 @04:11PM (#20150338)
reCaptcha works just fine in India. It does have some troubles in the world's second most populous country.
Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by collinmanderson on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:42AM (#20164485)
Source for India being most populous?

All sources I can find say that population of China is bigger than India.

Re:Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome by roboys on Monday June 10, 2019 @07:48PM (#20151977)
reCaptcha may be racist against black people. I hear a lot of AI is, google dropped the ball here.