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Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by wil421 on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @12:40PM (#20106227)
Not by choice exactly I’ve done College -> Work -> Work/College -> Professional Job.

The first 6 months of my “real” career job in tech I learned almost as much as the first 2 years of college. I couldn’t imagine having a masters especially an MBA without having worked professionally, internships aside. I’m excluding the medical professions where the minimum to employment is a masters/doctorate. Even non-doctors have a lot of clinical/hospital experience before/during a masters.

I’m about to start looking at Masters or MBA programs in my area. I’ll have almost 10 years of experience by then and happy I didn’t do it straight after school.

Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by lotsofpulp on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @12:51PM (#20106374)
The good MBA programs basically require professional work experience at a reputable firm. Generally, you graduate perhaps at age 21 to 23, then work for a few years, then go get an MBA, and finish around 26 to 28.

Edit: See Wharton class stats, shows a mean work experience of 5 years.

https://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/class-profile/

MIT/Harvard/Stanford show similar:

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/mba/admissions/class-2020-profile

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/class-profile/Pages/defau...

https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/programs/mba/admission/class-pr...

Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by duxup on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @12:59PM (#20106476)
That makes a lot of sense.

I worked with an MBA who couldn't seem to iron his shirts (or just didn't) for a while. Slowly his job duties were shifted to me... the guy he was supposedly help manage after he proved he couldn't figure out scheduling a 24/7 schedule.

He clearly had no experience beyond school and some internships.

Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by lotsofpulp on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:03PM (#20106538)
I would actually assume someone with an MBA without professional work experience either couldn't get a (decent) job, and/or is not smart enough to research the difference between an MBA that's worth something vs another excuse for schools to make money.
Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by duxup on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:09PM (#20106614)
Yeah this was during the height (well as far as advertising goes) of the situation where everyone was offering MBAs in every form.

Like this guy couldn't manage a taco bell... maybe that should be the barrier to entry, to get into class you have to manage a taco bell for a time....

Re:Biggest Offender in Outsize Debt: Master’s Degrees by kjs3 on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @03:54PM (#20108471)
Actually, that's a really good idea.

Funny enough, many years ago I had a very aggressive candidate for a mid-level technical development manager position who was insistent that his newly minted, no computer experience required, MSCE certificate or some such plus his handful of years managing a Pizza Hut qualified him for the job, because "a good manager can manage anything". I disagreed he was right for the job.