Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by bobthepanda on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @11:47AM
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I don’t get why it’s always presented as cubicle farm vs fully open floor. My company uses semi-open offfices; you have an open office with 8-10 people in a team, but don’t share space with other teams. So it’s access to the people you work with directly and no more.
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Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by donretag on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:05PM
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This setup is my favorite, although I have worked in offices of 3-6.
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by WalterSear on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @11:57AM
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That's still an open office.
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by rpedela on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:05PM
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Technically yes, but it feels very different to an open office with 50 people in it. <=10 is small enough that everyone is able to respect each others' privacy, noise, etc while still enjoying some of the benefits of an open office such as turn-your-chair-around collaboration. I think we need a new term for when <=10 people are in an open office. It just isn't the same as what is usually referred to when someone says "open office".
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by WalterSear on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:17PM
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It is exactly what people are referring to when they say 'open office'. What we need is a word for offices with 50 people in them.
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by chimeracoder on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:28PM
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> It is exactly what people are referring to when they say 'open office'. What we need is a word for offices with 50 people in them.
Those have historically been called "bullpen offices".
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by rpedela on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @01:49PM
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It really isn't. Most people are thinking of this: https://blog.nuclino.com/files/9f08086a-9bde-4d95-929a-f7f2c...
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by geekbird on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @06:32PM
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No, open offices resemble sweatshops, 50+ people per floor with no doors, privacy, or noise barriers.
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by geekbird on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @06:31PM
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That's the "team room" concept - each team has an "open office", but it's not open to all the noise from everyone else. There's a door for when the team is heads down on stuff.
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by poslathian on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @12:49PM
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I work in a 10 person open office with lots of separation - 1200sqft, 7 would be better but there is no comparison to a 50 person bullpen with everyone within arms reach of another.
What is the room layout of this setup? A dedicated room with 8-10 people in them where you close the door for quietness?
Re:Why aren’t more companies remote-first?
by bobthepanda on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @03:26PM
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Every team on the floor is in a semi-enclosed room with an opening into the hallway (no door).
In practice noise doesn't really leak from rooms into the hallway, so it's not a problem most of the time unless something extremely loud is happening, like a dog acting up or someone building flatpack furniture.