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Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by mrunkel on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:17AM (#20092134)
> With all services restored to normal operation, Google’s engineering teams are now conducting a thorough post-mortem ...

This is not the post-mortem, that is still to come.

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by tbodt on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:18AM (#20092138)
The postmortem is currently only visible to Googlers.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by echelon on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:36AM (#20092214)
What happened?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by tylerhou on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:56AM (#20092292)
TBH the linked update is a pretty accurate summary of the postmortem in my opinion.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by kyrra on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:05AM (#20093541)
+1

(I'm a Googler, opinions my own) As someone who has been on oncall for 3 year and done a decent amount of production support, this public doc better explains the cause than the internal one if you aren't well versed in the underlying infra.

A config change reduced used network capacity by half, and then things started falling over. And pushing the fix took a while due to the now overloaded network.

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by runevault on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:54AM (#20095594)
This reminds me of an AWS outage from a few years ago, I seem to recall they started baking thresholds to protect against known points of failure after that so misunderstandings/finger slips couldn't bring down the system.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by mcny on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:41AM (#20093684)
What can prevent this from happening in the future? Why was the config change required?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by jacquesm on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:10AM (#20095188)
Test changes on smaller parts of the network before pushing them to critical parts would be a first guess.

Config changes tend to be nasty in that their implications are often hard to oversee until they have been made, and if the effects preclude you from making another config change then you've just cut off the branch that you were sitting on.

Google is best-in-class when it comes to this stuff, the thing you should take away from this is that if they can mess up everybody does. And that pretty much correlates with my experience to date. This stuff is hard, maybe needlessly so but that does not change the fact that it is hard and that accidents can and will happen. So you plan for things to go wrong when you design your systems. Failure is not only an option, it is the default.

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by rst on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:22PM (#20098314)
Which seems to have been what they were trying to do; according to this update, the config change which caused the problem was intended to apply to a smaller portion of the network than it actually hit. But automated enforcement of procedures like this can also be tricky; how's a machine supposed to know that "this change was already tried on a smaller part of the network"?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by geofft on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @07:57AM (#20094092)
I think that's likely to be answered in the post-mortem, which is still to come.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by lallysingh on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:06AM (#20095139)
Prioritize configuration traffic so they can fix the problem quicker.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by mlthoughts2018 on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:03AM (#20094127)
Obviously to prevent things like this, Google needs more binary search tree whiteboard trivia problems in the interview process.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by MrBuddyCasino on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:25AM (#20092695)
> linked update

Where?

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by tedunangst on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:59AM (#20092915)
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by JMTQp8lwXL on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:24AM (#20092161)
The article leaves it to the reader to decide whether or not we will be updated with the results of that post-mortem.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by theevilsharpie on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @02:18AM (#20092398)
While this article leaves it ambiguous, the incident status report[1] makes it clear that customers can expect an actual postmortem:

"We will conduct an internal investigation of this issue and make appropriate improvements to our systems to help prevent or minimize future recurrence. We will provide a detailed report of this incident once we have completed our internal investigation. This detailed report will contain information regarding SLA credits."

[1] https://status.cloud.google.com/incident/cloud-networking/19...

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by phs318u on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @02:45AM (#20092508)
Its the pre-post-mortem.
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by laurentl on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @02:51AM (#20092530)
The mortem ?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by awalton on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:33AM (#20093647)
Perimortem?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by killjoywashere on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:41AM (#20093682)
In pathology we call issue a "preliminary autopsy report" within the first 48 hours and a "final autopsy report" within 30-60 days. A final report may be followed by additional addenda (new information, e.g. toxicology reports) and amendments (significant changes to the original report, e.g. "I was wrong")
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by OJFord on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:54AM (#20094475)
Yeah, the issue really is that post-mortem's been adopted as a noun.

This is a de facto post-mortem <thing> (allowing the adoption of 'mortem' to mean problem, but not the phrase as noun) just perhaps not the full analysis it's been taken to imply.

Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by dragon_greens on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:23AM (#20093603)
Pre-post-erous mortem?
Re:An update on Sunday’s service disruption by thom on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:22AM (#20094259)
The purgatorium.