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Re:New Mac Pro by ljw1001 on Monday June 03, 2019 @04:50PM (#20088564)
that just shows that they put the tiny, essentially useless HD in to keep the base price artificially low.
Re:New Mac Pro by chrisseaton on Monday June 03, 2019 @04:55PM (#20088650)
Isn't providing a lower cost option a good thing?
Re:New Mac Pro by Hamuko on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @03:32PM (#20098409)
Considering what a price tax Apple has had on internal storage, "lower cost" is a bit far-fetched.

Even the old 5400 RPM HDDs cost an arm and a leg if you bought it pre-installed into your MacBook. This was back in the days where you could unscrew the lid on your MacBook Pro with a standard screwdriver and replace the internal memory.

Re:New Mac Pro by rwmj on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:20PM (#20088921)
Bait and switch is a dark pattern, even if it's a common one.
Re:New Mac Pro by chrisseaton on Monday June 03, 2019 @06:11PM (#20089462)
It's a product with a price tag and spec sheet anyone can find. Can't really see how they can be any more transparent.
Re:New Mac Pro by Spivak on Monday June 03, 2019 @06:53PM (#20089805)
It's not a transparency issue, this dark pattern exists everywhere. You advertise "New X starting at $x" which is low enough to attract customers. But the thing you sell for $x is actually lacking in some small but important capacity making it unattractive for actual use. Then you sell an upgrade for the target price and customers are more willing to pay because it feels like they're paying a small premium for the thing they want.

It's a neat psychology trick. Customers are far more receptive to upsells when they're the one doing the upselling.

Re:New Mac Pro by chrisseaton on Monday June 03, 2019 @07:31PM (#20090123)
Where do you think the 'switch' is in that? At what point do they switch something from what was previously offered to something not expected? I don't think there is any switch. The specs are presented as up-front as any hardware spec is.
Re:New Mac Pro by rwmj on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:11AM (#20094176)
The switch is that you're some way through the "funnel" before you discover that to get a decent spec machine you need to spend a lot of money. It's the "power of commitment" sales trick.
Re:New Mac Pro by chrisseaton on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:23AM (#20094266)
I don't agree - it says how much storage each version comes with up front in large font on the marketing page https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/. It even lists the 256GB SSD option first, as the default option.
Re:New Mac Pro by jkchu on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:25PM (#20090543)
Your assumption requires that no one actually wants or will buy the 256gb option. I for one definitely would consider it, all my current computers have only 256gb and I haven't had issues (external hard drives are cheap).
Re:New Mac Pro by Koshkin on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:17PM (#20090471)
> low

Right.