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Re:Google Cloud Is Down by macintux on Sunday June 02, 2019 @03:35PM (#20077531)
And thus was ruined hundreds or thousands of pleasant Sunday afternoons.

I don’t miss being on pager duty one bit. I see it looming in my headlights, sadly.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by xerxes901 on Sunday June 02, 2019 @03:38PM (#20077549)
Spare a thought for the pleasant Australian early Monday mornings too! Always a rude awakening...
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by newsbinator on Sunday June 02, 2019 @04:21PM (#20077851)
It's the Queen's birthday, a Monday off here in New Zealand...

... but not for everybody now.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by Scoundreller on Sunday June 02, 2019 @06:09PM (#20078625)
So what happens when the crown changes? They change the holiday? Immediately? For the next year? Sounds like a bit of a nightmare.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by NeedMoreTea on Sunday June 02, 2019 @06:47PM (#20078879)
The holiday is on the official birthday. The sovereign's actual birthday has been separate from the official birthday for centuries, so the holiday does not need to change.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by doubleunplussed on Sunday June 02, 2019 @06:47PM (#20078876)
Nah, it's not even her actual birthday. Different countries with the same queen even celebrate it on different days. Presumably it'll be renamed to "king's birthday" but the day kept the same when the monarch changes. Or done away with/re-purposed - there's a general feeling in Australia at least that once the queen dies there will be less support for the monarchy.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by runlevel1 on Monday June 03, 2019 @01:23AM (#20080593)
If you think that's a hassle, in Japan the calendar changes with the emperor:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/25/big-tech-...

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by technion on Sunday June 02, 2019 @06:43PM (#20078853)
Australia celebrates the Queen's Birthday public holiday on different dates in different states already.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by ojm on Sunday June 02, 2019 @06:41PM (#20078843)
It’s not actually the queens birthday.

In Australia, many states have different dates for the queens birthday.

So not a nightmare at all.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by jacques_chester on Sunday June 02, 2019 @07:11PM (#20079022)
The only response is to wait for Google to fix it.

Nothing you or I or the pager can do will speed that up.

I am aware some bosses won't believe that and I am not trying to make light of it. But there really isn't much else to do except wait.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by warp_factor on Sunday June 02, 2019 @07:27PM (#20079117)
Or you wait for Google or you are frantically trying to move everything you got to AWS.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by jacques_chester on Sunday June 02, 2019 @07:38PM (#20079176)
If you wait, you get back to 100% with no effort or stress on your part.

If you try to be heroic, you get back to 100% with a bunch of wasted effort and stress on your part.

Because it will be fixed by Google, regardless of what you do or don't do.

After the incident is over would be the time to consider alternatives.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by paulfurtado on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:31AM (#20080871)
So, for some companies, failing over between providers is actually viable and planned for in advance. But it is known in advance that it is time consuming and requires human effort.

The other case is really soft failures for multi-region companies. We degrade gracefully, but once that happens, the question becomes what other stuff can you bring back online. For example, this outage did not impact our infrastructure in GCP Frankfurt, however, it prevented internal traffic in GCP from reaching AWS in Virginia because we peer with GCP there. Also couldn't access the Google cloud API to fall back to VPN over public internet. In other cases, you might realize that your failover works, but timeouts are tuned poorly under the specific circumstances, or that disabling some feature brings the remainder of the product back online.

Additionally, you have people on standby to get everything back in order as soon as possible when the provider recover. Also, you may need to bring more of your support team online to deal with increased support calls during the outage.

Re:Google Cloud Is Down by jagtesh on Sunday June 02, 2019 @04:11PM (#20077787)
Multi-cloud for those times when you really need that level of availability and can afford it.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by jjeaff on Sunday June 02, 2019 @08:49PM (#20079523)
It's not even about being able to afford it. Some things just don't lend themselves to hot failover. If your data throughput is high, it may not be feasible or possible to stream a redundant copy to a data center outside the network.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by EugeneOZ on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:30AM (#20080865)
All parts of the system should be copied (if you decided to build multi-cloud system), not just some of them.
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by bowmessage on Sunday June 02, 2019 @04:35PM (#20077950)
Do you work at G?
Re:Google Cloud Is Down by macintux on Sunday June 02, 2019 @05:24PM (#20078324)
Nope. I was more thinking of everyone else.