News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by asveikau on Sunday June 02, 2019 @01:04AM (#20073568)
Is this going to be safe for pregnant women and the like? I seem to recall that was one reason to opt out at the airport.
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by carlob on Sunday June 02, 2019 @05:59AM (#20074504)
You don't need to have any reason to opt-out from millimeter wave scanners. Just ask for a pat down. I do it all the time when traveling to the US, because I think these machines are useless, expensive and invasive. If enough people did this a simple, legal, act of civil disobedience would force the TSA to rethink the way they operate.
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by sokoloff on Sunday June 02, 2019 @10:23AM (#20075623)
Yes, opt out every time. (With pre-check, I don't have to as often, but every time I'm offered a US-run scanner, I opt out.) Might as well get my money's worth from the security theater... (NB: I'm a quite frequent flier and I've only ever seen one other person opt out; that was leaving a tech conference in Vegas.)
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by Jach on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:46AM (#20073915)
That seems like a weird reason since the radiation counter argument was typically countered by pointing out the radiation from the flight itself likely exceeded the scan by a lot.

This is likely about as safe as wifi. The paper someone linked describes a system using around 24-30 GHz microwaves, one of the company blogs says the power they transmit at those frequencies is even less than a typical router. This isn't unusual. You can see a list of over 800 FCC approved devices in that frequency range here: https://fccid.io/frequency-explorer.php?lower=24000&upper=30... (I also didn't see anything there for Liberty Defense, the company suspects they'll have a product ready by 2020 but we'll see. Radar and imaging applications are tricky, this company could implode beforehand.)

Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by mffnbs on Sunday June 02, 2019 @05:42AM (#20074450)
> That seems like a weird reason since the radiation counter argument was typically countered by pointing out the radiation from the flight itself likely exceeded the scan by a lot.

Doctors often advise pregnant women not to fly at certain stages of their pregnancy.

I can't imagine a doctor would advise pregnant women to enter these security theaters for literally no reason.

Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by jobigoud on Sunday June 02, 2019 @12:05PM (#20076273)
> Doctors often advise pregnant women not to fly at certain stages of their pregnancy.

More likely related to turbulences and avoiding entering labor while on a flight and difficulty using the seat belt.

Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by djsumdog on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:54AM (#20073955)
You need to keep in mind the first body scanners were not millimeter wave scanner. They were much more dangerous back scatter x-ray machines.
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by typeliftr on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:48AM (#20073923)
AFAIK, metal detectors (the standing ones) use a simple coil and a receiver on the other side to detect changes in the EM field. The hand-help ones like these ones use either radio waves or microwaves to scan for metal, so non-ionizing radiation. In both cases metal detectors should be safe.
Re:TSA-style body scanners are coming to public spaces by scotty79 on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:13AM (#20073795)
I'd rather be concerned if this is safe for prone for melanoma.