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Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @12:23PM (#20042135)
No, they weren't. Taxi companies operated legally. Uber routinely broke the law.

Also it still perplexes me that Uber managed to convince so many people with their bullshit PR campaign about the small upstart facing the Taxi Mafia - when from the beginning it was a heavily-funded company, later turned multinational corporation, fighting small local providers with underhand tactics.

Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by nradov on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @12:37PM (#20042320)
I'm not trying to excuse Uber but taxi companies in some places also routinely broke the law by refusing to travel to certain areas, pick up some minority passengers, or accept credit cards. In theory they were accountable to local taxi commissions but in practice that was totally ineffective in forcing drivers to obey the law.
Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by theamk on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @01:53PM (#20043265)
It still perplexes me that people believe that Uber needed to convince anyone about Taxi mafia. The taxis in US are amazingly backwards -- for example, there were no online tracking, no pre-defined fares, and no online ordering.

I remember having to use "car services" just because the taxis were so unpleasant.

Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by Kinnard on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @02:54PM (#20043974)
It actually wasn't Uber + Lyft (or their class better UXs) that convinced me. It was a taxi cab driver turned Uber + Lyft driver who looked at me incredulously when I asked him if Uber/Lyft was worth it.

"You bet ya!", he said, "I'm on vacation!" he said. He went on to talk about how the taxi cab industry was a dirty industry and uber/lyft reformed it.

Meanwhile one of my journalist friends declaims the "tyranny" of Uber/Lyft. It's not hyperbole its simply inaccurate.

Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by dclusin on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @01:47PM (#20043193)
It sounds like you've never been stranded late at night waiting hours for a cab that was "5 minutes away." I don't participate in the bar scene anymore. I don't benefit from the increased user experience of knowing exactly where your cab is, and if they cancel. Legal or not, I sure am glad those jackasses got their comeuppance.
Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @12:35PM (#20042298)
Taxi companies provided a horrible customer experience, routinely discriminated, and often defrauded their customers. I know because I suffered from it long before Uber ever existed.
Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by onemoresoop on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @12:57PM (#20042564)
And, in addition, in many places taxi companies became a cartel: remember the TLC medallion madness where some crooks were reaping the cream of the crop.
Re:Uber will start deactivating riders with low ratings by manfredo on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @03:39PM (#20044456)
> No, they weren't. Taxi companies operated legally. Uber routinely broke the law.

No, they didn't. At least, not in most US cities - I don't know how the laws work abroad. All a taxi medallion does is allow you to accept rides from people that hail you from the street. That's it. Limo companies and vans that you scheduled beforehand did not need medallions. There's functionally not much different from the service Uber provides and existing charter services, except for the fact that Uber used technology to make scheduling rides much faster.

The "Taxi Mafia" very much existed, though calling it a cartel is probably more accurate. Governments deliberately constrained the supply of taxis through medallions. Naturally, this resulted in inflated prices and poor service due to lack of competition. There's a reason why many people have little sympathy for the taxi industry's struggles to compete with ride sharing: taxis sucked.