Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by WalterBright on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:07PM
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Prison provides food, water, clothing and shelter. We send people there to punish them.
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Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by jressey on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:19PM
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You will notice 'being locked in cages' is not in my original list.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by WalterBright on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:27PM
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My point is that subsistence allocations of food, water, shelter, and clothing is not enough, and such are part of the punishment of prison.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by freehunter on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:54PM
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They're certainly enough to survive, which is why they're provided in prison. The argument wasn't that these are the only things you should ever have in life, but rather that these are the only things you need in life, and everything else is a luxury.
The punishment of prison isn't free food and shelter, it's a lack of luxuries. And people survive for decades in prison, so obviously what they're getting is, by definition, enough.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by rogual on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:49PM
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I wouldn't even consider prison to offer "shelter" since you're locked in there with violent people.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by parallel on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @11:45PM
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Words work because we agree what they mean in advance. You can't redefine "shelter" to suit your argument. Just make it with the standard definitions of words.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by rogual on Thursday May 30, 2019 @07:03AM
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Would you consider that a non-standard usage of "shelter"? I had a quick look online and I'm seeing definitions like:
a position or the state of being covered and protected
a shielded or safe condition; protection
a place giving temporary protection from bad weather or danger
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by tonyedgecombe on Thursday May 30, 2019 @04:00PM
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The things that make prison an undesirable place are lack of autonomy and separation from friends and family. You don’t need advertising or corporations to provide these.
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by blacksmith_tb on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:20PM
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Or to put that differently, we provide those essentials to prisoners because they'd die without them?
Re:Advertising as a source of dissatisfaction: cross-nationa...
by buckminster on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @06:32PM
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> food, water, clothing and shelter
Add love to that list and it sounds like a good life.