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Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by mixmastamyk on Sunday May 26, 2019 @09:13PM (#20018723)
> "How could it possibly take that long? How do you not know how long it will take?"

Well, if they really said that, you can just dismiss the comment as incompetent. A witty retort may be in order if a non-technical manager is in earshot, e.g.:

"How long would it take for you to earn a green belt in karate?"

"Hmm, what does a green belt entail?"

"Exactly, you don't even know what you don't know, yet."

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by xyzzy_plugh on Sunday May 26, 2019 @11:22PM (#20019171)
They did, and I replied

"We don't know because we've never done this before, and we can only compare to the most similar work we've done, and any existing data."

Before I could say more, they I interrupted: "You have to know, it's your job, or you don't know what your doing," or something along those lines. It was the most heated I've felt. I know what I'd reply with today, but I was younger and more naive then.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by matwood on Monday May 27, 2019 @09:04AM (#20021836)
I commented above that the initial questioning was fine.

> "or you don't know what your doing,"

That though was unprofessional, and should be addressed as such.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by swinglock on Monday May 27, 2019 @12:39AM (#20019507)
What would you reply today?
Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by conradfr on Monday May 27, 2019 @12:53PM (#20023477)
"Yeah, well I had sex with your wife!"

Or just offer over-inflated estimates since they won't accept something realistic anyway.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by dnial02 on Monday May 27, 2019 @05:58AM (#20020809)
Not OP, but I will answer with the second option and ask him what I should do?
Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by saagarjha on Sunday May 26, 2019 @11:04PM (#20019117)
> A witty retort may be in order

I don't think this will score you a lot of points.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by coldtea on Monday May 27, 2019 @06:05AM (#20020839)
Depends. Are we talking self-esteem/dignity points, or good doggie/loyalty points?
Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by reinhardt on Monday May 27, 2019 @06:43AM (#20021023)
I'd guess career-progression points, or even keep-getting-a-paycheck points at worst.
Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by mixmastamyk on Monday May 27, 2019 @02:39PM (#20024303)
This low-stakes exchange won't affect much, it's about putting Mr. Incomp in his place. Remember it's a PM we're talking about, not "the Boss."