I, for one, am glad this isn't the 50s anymore. I have a feeling I wouldn't very much enjoy working with "young white dudes" who have contempt for diversity in the workplace.
When I see a company that makes a point of flaunting how diverse they are, I assume that place is full of the social justice crowd and is probably being run on emotion instead of sound business practice. In my experience, those people and places suck to work with. At best I'm going to end up hearing a bunch of ideological bullshit on a day-to-day, which I don't at all care for at work, and now I have to worry that I'm going to experience discrimination because folks have come up with some weird notion that my pale skin and scrotum means my life is just all kinds of easy and that other folks should have access to programs or a "leg up" that I am not eligible for.
There is nothing noble in pushing for equality of outcome.
No problem of lack of diversity will be solved without dragging down or discriminating against some demographic of society without a full commitment to equality of opportunity.
The myopia involved with being suckered into accepting discrimination against one group to the benefit of another being an acceptable approach demonstrates a lack of commitment to understanding the forces actually at work in the world.
Diversity or lack thereof isn't the problem. Equivalent access to the foundational necessities that facilitate successful integration into, and the ability to further develop and meaningfully contribute to the ends of, society's perpetuation and advancement with minimal accidental systemic compulsion is the problem.
Diversity is just the "bread and circuses" perversion that slows down any meaningful attempt at the former due to some mistaken impression that undoing an injustice must involve a new injustice being committed.
Two wrongs a right does not make.
That they are still winning with a handicap doesn't change the fact that they are being penalized.
Fighting bias with bias is not as good as fixing root causes, but it works in more places.
Far less subjective compared to adding points when you have no idea what a person's back-story is.
Lots of subjective hiring practices are terrible.
I'm not convinced that you're asking in good faith, but I'm going to try to be optimistic and answer anyway.
Most of us can agree that there are demographics who have been systematically disadvantaged and that we live in an economy where advantages are often passed from one generation to another. This cascading injustice is similar to a relay race, where cheating in the first leg of the race affects the outcome in the last leg of the race.
In a race you'd be able to disqualify the team that cheated regardless of whether all of the members were complicit, but we can't disqualify white people from the economy. It's also unacceptable to ignore the injustice, as it continues to perpetuate those disadvantages into the future.
Instead, the idea is to try to counter those disadvantages by focusing on inclusivity rather than optimizing for people who want to keep the advantages that they've inherited through injustice.
To answer your question: the things that you feel are being taken away from you were never yours to begin with.
I'm not claiming that all implementations of affirmative action are perfect, but I think progress is being made in the right direction. I think that moving to a system that took income or class into account could be an improvement, but I haven't seen enough research to have a strong opinion here. Maybe you could point me to a few resources?
> And your metaphor that it would somehow be justified to "disqualify" white people is bonkers.
I think you're confused. I said "we can't", not "we should" or "it would be justified".
> We're NOT teams. I'm not on "team white" and anyone, regarding of race who thinks I'm on it is on the opposite team, because my actual team is my beliefs.
You're responding to words I haven't said. Of course we're not teams, I didn't suggest anything of the sort.
Your actual team, at least the one that matters, is your class. If you have to punch a clock to survive, you're working class. If your money works for you, you're investment class.
And here you have it sorted out for generations! Ponder that very carefully.
In situations where this is the case, these guys are more or less slaves, I would expect to see this exact same dynamic in ancient Rome
That, and these kids (regardless of race or gender) are getting f-ed in general. I see so many places paying them less than what I was making in their position 20 years ago, and life didn't get any less expensive since then.