Not really. The situation is much more opening the space for OTHER Chinese vendors to jump in and grab the market. Samsung is already selling in all channels where Huawei is, so they have their shelf-space allocated already. That slot will not remain vacant. LG can surely grab a bit more business in short-term for sales-channels they were not selling to, because even if they are not in a specific channel, they have products ready and tested for the market to fill the gap immediately. TCL/Alcatel has maybe some opportunities in low-price device-tier as well, because they have established relationships with many carriers and retailers.

On the other hand, Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Xiaomi are all not sanctioned by US, all of them offer comparable products with a very similar price and aggressively try to expand their international presence.

So I expect mainly a Oppo/Vivo/OnePlus vs. Xiaomi vs. TCL/Alcatel fight for every slot Huawei is at risk to lose...

EE (owned by BT) launched its 5G lineup in London this week.

They dropped Huawei but had a OnePlus instead.

More Chinese brands pop up every time you try to cut one off ;)

After this fiasco, I'm more than ever willing to change to Huawei. Best yet if they change to a platform not based on Android. I'm done with Google (and Android soon) in every possible way.

Uh, so an app store without:

Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, Outlook, Chromecast, Dropbox, OneDrive, YouTube, Twitter, Google search ( or duck duck go), Amazon, Amazon video, 2fa authenticator, iftt, Wikipedia, Skype, messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Waze, Google maps, Ted, Wolfram Alpha, ... I'm pretty sure there is one of them that you use recurringly.

You're going to use that OS?

The only Chinese app I use is eWelink and I really want to flash that device to be more flexible and dump it.

Most of those have functioning websites you know? All you'd need is a half decent browser.

You don't need apps for Google search, Wikipedia or Amazon, and I don't think this ban is going to extend to blocking websites for western consumers using Huawei devices.

The others I don't use, so it would be OK for me.

Eg: Google is paying for being the default search-engine.

So Baidu will be the default search engine on any browser that will be used ( since they can pay).

> You're going to use that OS?

I would. Nothing in that list is indispensable to me.

Not everyone uses them.

Not all of them, some of them :) I'm just pointing out the "most regular used"

As first step I switched from terrible Android TV to WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones.

Apps.

That, to me, seems like the real barrier for any new smartphone platform. It happened with Windows Phone, a platform backed by a huge company and even using a very popular language and platform.

I think WebOS and Firefox OS were before their time a little given the rise of progressive web apps, but I still don't think they're a complete answer until they can use native UI elements.

yeah. this discussion seems to mix up android's success as an ecosystem and android's quality as an OS and a technical achievement.

android's large market share is attributable to many things beyond the software itself, which, in any case, owes a heavy debt to Linux. replacing android as an ecosystem will require enticing a large 3rd party developer base to write apps. the worldwide android developer community is full of developers eager to you know, like, make actual money on their apps. if Huawei can create a new app marketplace where that happens for these developers, they should be able to attract abundant talent. they should imitate Apple, not Google.

>WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones.

It used to be [1], but was a victim of HP's incompetence.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre

Oh sure - short term yes this is a win for Samsung over Huawei but long term it sends a very clear message that the future of their business depends highly on Google and the winds of US foreign policy. You don't want to be the person presenting to the Samsung board "Future Risks: Donald Trump"

Right but when US technology cannot be depended on long term, the default foreign position many will take is to avoid or route around it.

US foreign policy doesn't change on a whim as some people like to make it out to be. The economic dispute with China has been in the making for decades at this point.

>Do you think Samsung and LG would be more likely to develop not to mention support an Android competitor?

Samsung tried this with Tizen, IIRC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen