News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by fmajid on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @08:35PM (#19976606)
Not in the realm of 5G network equipment. As BT's McRae says, they are way ahead of their competitors, not something you can achieve by simply copying others' technology:

https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/bts-mcrae-huawei-is-t...

The reality is that Huawei has been outspending its competitors in R&D by a wide margin for over two decades, because the latter are managed by bean counters in thrall to the stock market's short-term horizon. Eventually, the difference would show.

One further wrinkle is that Chinese 5G uses frequencies like 3-4 GHz that are hogged by the military in the US. US carriers have to resort to millimeter wave frequencies in the 30+ GHz range that can't penetrate a door, let alone a building, and are thus mostly useless for 5G penetration outside a very few congested open-air locations, and thus their 5G technology is at a severe disadvantage over the Chinese one:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/standards/how-am...

Most countries not aligned with China or the West will prefer the Huawei technology: superior technology yet cheaper, and far less expensive to deploy and operate. Any country that doesn't puts itself at a competitive disadvantage over others that do. The US may yet convince its European allies to shun Huawei, but it will come at a severe cost.

Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by navigatesol on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @06:48AM (#19979770)
>The reality is that Huawei has been outspending its competitors in R&D by a wide margin for over two decades, because the latter are managed by bean counters in thrall to the stock market's short-term horizon.

The idea that "the stock market" prevents companies from doing any long-term development is one of the most delusional, easy to disprove memes going. Public companies in America have been churning out game-changing technology forever. The Chinese are ahead on 5G, so suddenly the system is a failure?

Going public is a capital raising mechanism, nothing more. And it's probably driven a few orders of magnitude more innovation than it's hindered. The disdain for public markets (or finance in general) on these boards is bizarre.

Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by fmajid on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @07:38AM (#19980023)
The failure is that we let Huawei out-invest us (as in Western telecoms network equipment firms, Ericsson, Nokia, Alcatel, Lucent, Nortel, Siemens) 2 to 1 in R&D for the last 20 years. That's because Ren Zhengfei is a visionary who was prescient enough to understand the value of R&D in gaining an edge while also ruthless enough to use industrial espionage in the short term to catch up.

The current situation was completely predictable, but industrial policy has a bad name in rentier capitalist circles that dominate our policy apparatus.

Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by jjeaff on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @01:05AM (#19977946)
Just because their 5g tech is the best in no way prices they didn't steal ip to get where they are.

I am not expert on networking equipment by any means. But I would assume that 5g equipment is built upon previous technology.

It would thus follow that stealing the preceding, underlying technology and then focusing resources on building out the 5g part of the tech would be the fastest/cheapest way to become a leader in 5g.

Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by kingosticks on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @04:55AM (#19979224)
Is it public knowledge yet who Nokia used to fab their chip? I can tell you that's part of the reason they are late to market. They'll get there and it's not like BT isn't already trialling their prototype gear. Some of these customer statements sound like negotiating tactics.
Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by fmajid on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @07:41AM (#19980053)
5G is far more about software than RF chips.
Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by kingosticks on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @09:26AM (#19980906)
If you don't have a next gen chipset you don't have a product to sell to the likes of BT. They are looking for a complete solution and for their investment to last years. That means you need both.
Re:Hobbling Huawei: Inside the U.S. war on China’s tech giant by downrightmike on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @09:59PM (#19977068)
If the Huawei tech operates on the same frequencies as US military tech, that is reason enough to see the embargo. It is one reason why LEO satellite internet has taken so long, because the plans typically get near some of the frequencies that old maritime GPS devices use and they can't be interrupted.