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Re:A man who is ageing too fast by ASalazarMX on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:17PM (#19975709)
It would be cool, but I fear some world leaders (be it politics, economy, science, etc.) would never want to die, stagnating the status quo for centuries until they die from accidents.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by rossnordby on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:18PM (#19976140)
Agelessness might cause some social problems, but if the choice is between "everyone dying" and "needing societal innovation to avoid stagnation", it's hardly a choice at all.

In an alternate Earth where humans never aged to begin with and society started stagnating (or worse) because of it, I doubt that the world's top minds would come up with 'kill literally everyone at X years of age' as their first option (or second, or third...). That would be comic book supervillainy.

These kinds of concerns aren't invalid, I just hope they are considered with a wide enough perspective. In terms of direct and indirect suffering, it's hard to do worse than aging.

Re:A man who is ageing too fast by mcv on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @04:51AM (#19979204)
> "Agelessness might cause some social problems, but if the choice is between "everyone dying" and "needing societal innovation to avoid stagnation", it's hardly a choice at all."

Needing societal innovation does not mean you're going to get societal innovation, though.

Also, a cure for aging does not mean that nobody will die from old age. It means that the people who can afford the treatment won't die of old age. The poor will continue to die.

Re:A man who is ageing too fast by rossnordby on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @12:52PM (#19983039)
Both of those things are potential issues, yes. And they should be kept in mind so the future can be less bad.

But they are not unsolvable problems, nor do they imply that aging is better than agelessness. They just imply we have to work harder, because again, the alternative is the death of everyone.

Re:A man who is ageing too fast by derefr on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @01:46AM (#19978139)
The fact that autocrats eventually die of old age is one of the main things discouraging people from bloody revolution—because it’s a lot cheaper (in lives lost, for one) to just wait and let nature take its course.

Without death by aging, this moderating influence wouldn’t be there, so we’d see far more assassination attempts and coup staging.

Re:A man who is ageing too fast by taneq on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @08:40PM (#19976640)
"Humans should only die on their own terms... except for the most influential people, who shouldn't live longer than I say they should." Hmm.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by nitwit005 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @01:11AM (#19977982)
"Dictator for life" is definitely less of an issue than "Dictator for eternity".
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by ASalazarMX on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:04PM (#19977360)
You misinterpret my words. I meant if everyone was ageless it would be good, but influential people would get more influential the same as wealth tends to accumulate.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by pawelmurias on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:24PM (#19975757)
Scientists living forever seems like something that could accelerate progress.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by scotradamus on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:36PM (#19975834)
"Science progresses one funeral at a time" -Max Planck
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by ASalazarMX on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:59PM (#19977342)
This was the quote I had in mind but couldn't quite recall.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by chr1 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @03:25AM (#19978692)
Why do you think any other people would want to die? I would expect wanting to die to be be as anomalous as it is now unless the life extension therapy doesn't work well.

Also "stagnating the status quo for centuries " sounds bad because you expect to live decades. If you say it as "stagnating the status quo for time comparable to half of the human lifetime" you'll see it's not any worse than what we have now.

Re:A man who is ageing too fast by solveit on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @02:48AM (#19978465)
"Kill literally everyone" seems like a poor way to deal with that (or any) problem.
Re:A man who is ageing too fast by lukaszkups on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @02:17AM (#19978293)
yeah... "accidents" ;)