Re:A Solution for Loneliness: Get out and volunteer, researc...
by ip26 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:40PM
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I like to think of it in terms of power vacuums. A power vacuum will be filled. Do we chose to fill it with thoughtful intent, or do we allow it to fill itself with whomever or whatever it pleases?
One of my favorite pieces:
Re:A Solution for Loneliness: Get out and volunteer, researc...
by jacquesm on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:24PM
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> However, it isn't yet obvious that it can be done without - a religion's adherents are often people who want some sort of power structure telling them what they should do to be a good person.
There are countries where the majority is not religious and they function just fine.
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by Apocryphon on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:28PM
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Are they? Much of Europe and Japan have fallen into economic doldrums with declining birth rates, and fallen prey to advancing right-wing populist movements. But then Poland is quite religious and far rightists are taking root there as well, so maybe religion isn’t the sticking factor.
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by sjy on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:38PM
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It's also notable that those countries don't have noticeably worse standards of living than countries with a state religion or less religious freedom, and Europe attracts many migrants from such countries.
I don't like power structures but some are necessary. Take the police for example, a world where the police are not needed would be a better world. Police are a nasty coercive force. And yet they are completely essential.
Religion is interesting because it is obviously not essential in the way that a police force is. However, it isn't yet obvious that it can be done without - a religion's adherents are often people who want some sort of power structure telling them what they should do to be a good person. What it means to be a good person isn't obvious, and in practice is very complex. Sometimes a good person needs to do horrible things - we should be terrified of taking that sort of decision on personally. Sometimes bad people want to do good and would appreciate being told how.
* Political structures aren't strong enough to organise society on their own. They only communicate the beliefs of the current ruling class.
* We can do without a lot of religious dogma, which is clearly wrong (eg, anything talking about purging heretics). We need some sort of shared story for what is going on that looks a lot like a religion.