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Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by malvosenior on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:42PM (#19973388)
Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen.

Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship:

https://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/10/07/bono-calls-steve-...

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by roryrjb on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:49PM (#19973482)
I thought the same thing when I saw the title of this, but rolling your eyes at Glenn Gould playing Bach, Bob Marley, Nirvana or the Beatles? Come on! This is some of the most influential and culturally important music there is. This isn't just popular it's good. Of course it'd be more interesting if they chose Gamelan, late John Coltrane, Jordi Savall, Karlheinz Stockhausen or Merzbow, but seriously what else would you expect?
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by malvosenior on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:55PM (#19973558)
> Glenn Gould playing Bach, Bob Marley, Nirvana or the Beatles

One of these things is not like the others :) Yes, there's some great music included but it's a very cliche and unsurprising collection. Certainly not "think different" style.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by icebraining on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:13PM (#19973749)
That's a feature, not a bug - they could more easily compare the sound quality of the iPod to other devices.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by 8draco8 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:52PM (#19973517)
A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by munificent on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:37PM (#19974017)
Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country?

I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with:

* Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison

* Michael Jackson - Thriller

* Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang

Some punk and metal representation would be good too. And, honestly, Play hasn't held up well over the years. If you want something more representative or influential, maybe Orbital's brown album or Underworld's dubnobywithmyheadman.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by 8draco8 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:11PM (#19974392)
Who said that this was a list o the best 20 CDs? Those was the best CDs for demographic they was targeting. That list was both good music and a marketing tool. That’s why there is no number one pop stars of that time on this list.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by Rebelgecko on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:24PM (#19974526)
Giving everyone a copy of 36 Chambers would be a very un-Jobs thing to do. Imagine, you put your product in the hands of a journalist, they put the earbuds in, and the first thing they hear is a 2 minute description of torture and testicular mutiliation
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by cholantesh on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:39PM (#19974707)
The first thing they'd hear is a contextless monologue about rival kung-fu schools.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by Rebelgecko on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:19PM (#19975178)
The scroll wheel demonstration took them down to track 9
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by asark on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:21PM (#19975190)
If we're going for a "best" list (rather than "most important") a cheap way to slightly improve it would be to swap Nevermind for In Utero.

Though I thought it was actually a pretty well-curated set of albums. "Best" isn't always the... well, best, thing to aim for in a collection.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by phaus on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:43PM (#19975879)
I'm not a huge Nirvana fan, but I agree. The band ended before it realized its full potential and I think In Utero was a small taste of where they were headed. Heart Shaped Box is so much better than their earlier hits (which are by no means bad)that I never even bother to listen to their older music anymore.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by cholantesh on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:41PM (#19974736)
No Sarcofago, no entry.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by malvosenior on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:59PM (#19973593)
> Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music

This was the assumption through the later half of the 20th century, but I don't think it's the case at this point. I haven't even heard The Beatles in a commercial context in about a decade (something unthinkable as early as 2000). Hip hop clearly had a large influence on the pop culture of today and (totally unrepresented in this collection). Plus there's really no excuse for including The Dave Matthews Band :P

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by 8draco8 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:06PM (#19973675)
In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by scarface74 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:07PM (#19975620)
I can’t find a non Wikipedia reference, but it did say that hip hop was the best selling genre by 1999.

Just for reference, these are the top 100 songs of 2000. The year before the iPod was introduced.

None of the hip hop songs that were popular were groundbreaking - mostly just bubble gum rap. I doubt very seriously that Apple would have been willing to put any socially conscious rap on iPods.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by malvosenior on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:11PM (#19973723)
I think it was fairly well established at this point (Jay Z, Outkast...). My somewhat snarky point though was that the iPod was obviously a very forward thinking and revolutionary device that was the direct predecessor the iPhone. Jobs had great vision and could practically "see the future" of consumer electronics, yet this music collection is like the most generic suburban backyard bbq playlist for middle age people. If Jobs had the same insight into music as he had into tech, we'd see way more hip hop, electronic. Hell, even yacht rock has comeback in a way that The Dave Matthews Band or Faith Hill never will.

This is to be expected of course, I just think it's humorous.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by phaus on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:46PM (#19975906)
>If Jobs had the same insight into music as he had into tech, we'd see way more hip hop, electronic.

You can be on the cutting edge of music without liking hip hop or electronic music. The problems wasn't the genres he picked, but the incredibly generic band choices within those genres.

I do like hip hop (and electronic is slowly growing on me), but that doesn't mean that everyone that doesn't is out of touch. There's interesting music coming out of nearly every genre in 2019. That's the way it always is.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by malvosenior on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @07:16PM (#19976131)
Totally. The choices were bland within the genres they represented. Still, as a music player with, at the time, incredible storage it seems like having a bunch of genres represented would have showcased the iPod's capabilities better.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by scarface74 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @08:42PM (#19976667)
I can’t think of any good hip hop that came out before 2001 that wouldn’t have been too controversial for the sensibilities of corporate America.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by phaus on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @01:10PM (#19983203)
That's true. I remember that there was a shitstorm of controversy over Kriss Kross' Jump when it first came out. Not saying its good, just an example of something incredibly mild that was almost too much for America's sensibilities at the time.
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:21PM (#19975738)
> In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial.

Not really, hip hop / rap was fairly mainstream by the late 1980s / early 1990s.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by 8draco8 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @04:55AM (#19979219)
Yeah in my group age almost everybody was listening to hip hop, but we wasn't the people that could afford new and shiny iPod
Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by johnnycab on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:19PM (#19973825)
>Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music)

Apple was not exactly at the top of their field before betting on the iPod. The curated collection was not only personal, it was also as iconic as the device it was meant to show off. You would probably balk at the idea of Karlheinz Brandenburg's choice of Tom's Diner too.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by scarface74 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @05:55PM (#19975511)
Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music).

Ed Colligan former CEO of Palm in 2006 on rumors that Apple was releasing a phone.

“We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone, PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in.“

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by m463 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:09PM (#19974370)
You're not the target market.

As a matter of fact, that's how just about everything apple works. They are "for the rest of us" and they don't pander to professionals (no matter if they name their products "pro")

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by duxup on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:20PM (#19973840)
>Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music).

So?

I think the article is just a geewiz kinda article that looks back and lists the CDs. It's interesting, I don't think it is declaring Jobs or anyone else some sort of status as defining music in anyway. Most of that music is highly thought of by lots of people anyway.

The rest of your post I think says more about your preferences than anything else.

Re:CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016) by AdmiralAsshat on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:51PM (#19973508)
> Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship:

The more interesting relationship, IMO, was the Joan Baez/Jobs relationship.