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Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by leereeves on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @12:56PM (#19971977)
How can we know if your side of the story is the truth?

Either way, this is an excellent example of why the Twitter Justice System is a bad idea.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by duxup on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:01PM (#19972031)
One thing is this person didn't mention the other people.

Telling this story this way isn't likely to be seen as attacking someone else / not a huge benefit to them / perhaps LESS of an incentive to lie..

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by wccrawford on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:10PM (#19972143)
From the article, it sounds like the only reason they didn't name the people was that their lawyer told them not to.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by unbalancedparen on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:42PM (#19972579)
That is not correct. I have no interest in damaging anybody. That is why I did not write names and other things that happened in the article. He has already been banned from other conferences.

I am trying to protect myself based on what happened and other people told me, I assure you the last few weeks have been a hell for me. My only objective is to be able to run my conference as I want and not to be harrassed.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by leereeves on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:52PM (#19972686)
But you did identify the woman on Twitter. I won't link to it because I don't think we should share it further, but someone posted it in this discussion.

I sympathize but I think the court of public opinion is unlikely to do anything other than further escalate things.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by revvx on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:04PM (#19972879)
I watched this unfold on Twitter, and it was a third-party related to the woman that decided to "out" themselves.

It's not an easy position for a conference organizer to be in.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by duxup on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:13PM (#19972171)
Maybe, but that doesn't change that there's not a lot of value here as far as any given he said he said type situation.

I can belive the writer, it really changes nothing as far as who they're describing as I've still no idea who they are / the author isn't really changing my opinion about anything.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by mikestew on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:34PM (#19972454)
If the author cared about "the truth" and "their side of the story" to "clear their name", names would have been named; details would have been detailed. The lack of those things might be a clue that it wasn't the point, but rather a warning to others that might follow the conference organizer path.

Believe the author or not, but there are some fucking Looney Tunes folks out there. If you go gathering a crowd of people above a critical mass, you're going to have to deal with a few of them at some point. That should be your take-away.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by wysifnwyg on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:05PM (#19972077)
Until evidence is provided, we can't. Given their legal counsel recommends against sharing evidence, we may never get the evidence. All this is right now is an attempt at continuity that will show later if they story has deviated from what they claim or has remained consistent.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by jasonlotito on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:02PM (#19972046)
So, there is no need to assume otherwise at this point. They are working through the legal system, and haven't named anyone. That's why you don't see any evidence presented, or names, or anything else like that.
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Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by Waterluvian on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:03PM (#19972059)
Easier said than done when you're a leader, event organizer, company executive or manager. Etc.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by striking on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @04:57PM (#19974939)
> Sorry if I offended someone!

It's like you didn't actually read the replies. They state counterarguments; they don't show anyone taking any offense.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by ryandrake on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @06:39PM (#19975858)
I was referring to the instant -5 downvoting seconds after posting, which usually only happens if you insult someone or offend. I really worried I said something rude!
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by village-idiot on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @08:27AM (#19980387)
Or maybe we just disagree with you...
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by sethammons on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:12PM (#19972151)
he had sponsors and others reaching out to him to ask what is going on. I don't think they plan on turning off twitter too.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by AgentME on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @03:15PM (#19973771)
Why does he care what the sponsors think? His problem would be solved if he stops paying attention to Twitter, his sponsors, money, friendships, etc... /s
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by kkapelon on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @02:08AM (#19978253)
Because sponsors pay for the conference he was trying to organize. No sponsors, no money, no conference.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by jasonlotito on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:04PM (#19972066)
He was harassed at a conference, probably in violation of their CoC, and felt threatened enough to leave. Sounds like real world harm to me.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by commandlinefan on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:01PM (#19972034)
That was my takeaway - she's doing to him exactly what he allowed other people to do to her. He's finding that he doesn't like it.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by srpguy on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:16PM (#19972198)
Did we read the same article? He turned her speaker position down because of her pattern of vengeful, childlike behavior. She acted completely in line with what her reputation would suggest and pursued a personal harassment campaign.

Maybe I'm missing something. Can you enumerate what he allowed people to do to her, and what she did to him? That way we can compare directly.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by lawnchair_larry on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:09PM (#19977376)
That isn’t mentioned anywhere in the linked article.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by ndiscussion on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:26PM (#19972334)
> alleged pattern of vengeful, childlike behavior
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by revvx on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:10PM (#19972965)
The conference organizer denied a speaker position in a conference. All that happened in private.

The person and a third-party engaged (allegedly) in doxxing and public shaming.

Even if the conference organizer was in the wrong, there's a world of difference between those two things.

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by kazinator on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @02:30PM (#19973219)
Public shaming using false allegations of stalking and harassment.
Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by mgkimsal on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:17PM (#19972207)
"she's doing to him exactly what he allowed other people to do to her"

Please explain that. What did he 'allow' 'other people' to 'do' to her?

Re:Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software ... by jasonlotito on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:06PM (#19972087)
He's handling this without naming anyone publicly, and going through proper channels. She did the exact opposite, making this public and threatening him enough that he felt compelled to leave a conference where she was apparently harassing him.

Not quite the same thing.