Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by ASalazarMX on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:50AM
(#19971306)
Could this be an instance of "saving face" as people do in East Asia?
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Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by samsonradu on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @12:05PM
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Is “saving face” an (Eastern) Asia thing? (genuine question)
Saving face is on a continuum. In some cultures it’s more important than others. In some it has more impact on day to day lives. Is some cultures it encourages people to take responsibility and resign to “save face for a company or the state” even when it’s not that person’s fault but rather the fault of the position.
So yeah I think the majority of societies practice this to lesser and greater degrees. Some have elaborate customs around it, in others it’s almost imperceptible.
I always find this distinction interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt-Shame-Fear_spectrum_of_c...
Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by jasonshen on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @12:28PM
(#19971719)
There is a term in Chinese that means "lose face". I remember my parents saying it to me when I misbehaved. I made them lose face to their friends. Save face emerged as a way to avoid losing face: https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lose-face.html
Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by shaobo on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @12:25PM
(#19971677)
It is an everybody thing, why else would the phrase enter popular usage.
Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by sct202 on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @01:29PM
(#19972380)
At it's basic level saving face is pretty close to minimizing embarrassment.
Re:US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
by SoReadyToHelp on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @12:15PM
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No, they just do it in slightly different ways than Americans so it's framed as something exotic and weird instead of typical human behaviour.