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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by sjy on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:59PM (#19934321)
Choosing to get a fake divorce so that you can game the system as much as possible isn't punishment; it's probably fraud. You could also choose to relax and let your children enjoy all the other benefits of a great upbringing, and accept that "the children of hardworking parents should be more likely to be admitted" isn't a design goal of the admissions system.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by wanderer2323 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:44PM (#19934621)
Resisting an abusive and insanely overreaching government system is not 'fraud' morally and it probably won't be one legally.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by astura on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:15PM (#19935602)
The SAT is administered by College Board which is an entirely private institution.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by pacala on Friday May 17, 2019 @01:04AM (#19936473)
The federally & state funded public Universities that will fall over each other to employ adversity scores as a pillar of their academic life, on the other hand... One can attempt to outsource responsibility from a legalistic perspective, but from a moral perspective one can't escape it.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by travmatt on Friday May 17, 2019 @07:57PM (#19944696)
That seems like quite a stretch to rationalize why a private entity making decisions about its internal processes is actually government mandated overreach.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by fenwick67 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:10PM (#19934797)
If you don't lie it's not fraud. You can game metrics all you want, you can get divorced for any reason.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by dragonwriter on Friday May 17, 2019 @10:50AM (#19940114)
You can get married for any reason, but that doesn't stop certain perfectly true and legally valid marriages from being marriage fraud in immigration.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by remote_phone on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:53PM (#19935461)
No it’s not fraud in the least. Nothing says I need to be married at all.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by PascLeRasc on Friday May 17, 2019 @11:04AM (#19940243)
You said you're doing all this for the sake of your kids. What do you think they'll learn from you doing this?
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by acid__ on Friday May 17, 2019 @02:08PM (#19942076)
If I had to guess, probably that:

1. remote_phone cares deeply about his children

2. in life there are many unjust and immoral systems, and that it's okay to subvert them

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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by PascLeRasc on Friday May 17, 2019 @02:28PM (#19942228)
Do you think it was okay for Felicity Huffman et al to pay for their children's admission?
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by thinkingemote on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:35PM (#19934557)
They are saying they will get a real divorce but just live together after.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by cm2187 on Friday May 17, 2019 @01:17AM (#19936538)
It's not fraud to divorce. People can live whatever way they want. It is merely arbitraging a bad metric.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by strikelaserclaw on Friday May 17, 2019 @10:19AM (#19939829)
If this guy is going to insane lengths like this, he is probably gaming the system in other ways anyway.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by dragonwriter on Friday May 17, 2019 @10:48AM (#19940100)
If the guy is going to insane lengths like this, his kids probably have genuine non-economic adversity.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by tyopiuy on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:52PM (#19935069)
It could come down to a large scale societal prisoners dilemna. It’s gonna get ugly
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships by UnFleshedOne on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:46PM (#19934631)
You can't commit fraud against a secret metric. If the metric is public and official, then yeah, that's a fraud.
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