Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by inetknght on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:54PM
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> there are hams that do hidden transmitter hunts purely for sport. A posse of them could find that clown easily on any random Saturday morning and not be late for lunch.
So why don't they?
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by dbcurtis on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:29PM
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What is a bunch of random nerds going to do? They have no power to fine or arrest. All they can do is document the evidence and turn it over to the FCC, which does happen on occasion. But, I have listened to ARRL division directors talking about trying for years to get well-documented egregious cases of malicious interference dealt with by the FCC. The FCC just can not be bothered. It's not so much that they can't be bothered to collect evidence, which they can't, but even if they have evidence, that can't be bothered to act on it. The FCC should be a technical organization but is pathetically political.
One of my ham friends deals with the FCC often, because he works in spectrum management at the NTIA. The stories he tells make me never want to set foot in D.C. except to visit all the museums that my taxes fund.
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by inetknght on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:40PM
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No power to fine or arrest isn't entirely true.
What stops them from finding who's transmitting and then filing a civil suit?
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by zymhan on Monday May 20, 2019 @08:29AM
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They keep telling you that the FCC has the power to do it but does not have the political will.
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by p_l on Thursday May 16, 2019 @02:06PM
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You need to get the community organised for a hunt. I recall one that happened when a rogue retransmitter managed to spill religious radio onto TWR2 frequency at local Airport
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by sdca on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:14PM
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You're assuming it would broadcast long enough to find the station, not a hit and run operation. And even if there was a constant signal, they could be using a repeater.
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by dbcurtis on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:19PM
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The T-hunting game is usually pretty spicy, with intermittent transmissions and propagation hacks. A repeater adds no difficulty at all.... just DF the input of the repeater.
Re:Hackers can fake radio signals to 'hijack' aircraft landi...
by Defenestresque on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:53PM
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Or impersonate indeed [0]
Or impersonate. One of my pilot friends was planning a trip across the CA Central Valley, and he reported with some bemusement that there was at active NOTAM (NOtice To Air Men) to be on guard about some guy in the Fresno area that was impersonating ATC. Apparently it had been happening for months and nothing much by way of investigation had taken place.
At this point I pretty much concluded that bad Part 15 devices or PG&E power line noise h0rk1ng over my ham radio reception was not going to get any attention, ever, if the FCC can't be bothered to find an ATC impersonator. I mean really, there are hams that do hidden transmitter hunts purely for sport. A posse of them could find that clown easily on any random Saturday morning and not be late for lunch.