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Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by stronglikedan on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:25PM (#19922822)
But also, charge accordingly, if you don't have to post your prices (as your parents probably did). A lawyer is likely willing to pay a lot more for the same website than a tailor shop, and I'll gladly take both of their money.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by crispyambulance on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:42PM (#19922988)
Yes, "charge accordingly" means different things to different customers.

My parents never advertised their tailor shop, it was all "word-of-mouth" business. After the pricing jack-up, every customer got charged what my mother felt they could pay (with a very loose regard for consistency and some allowance for negotiation).

I used to think that was sketchy. It wasn't until much later that I realized that B2B enterprise sales people do that stuff ALL THE TIME even with their onerous kpi's, forecasting and fiscal quarter expectations!

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:56PM (#19923109)
> I used to think that was sketchy. It wasn't until much later that I realized that B2B enterprise sales people do that stuff ALL THE TIME even with their onerous kpi's, forecasting and fiscal quarter expectations!

Depending on how it's done, it still is, and enterprise salesmen doing it doesn't make it less so. As a customer, I don't necessarily seek absolute minimum price, but I want it to be a fair price that I can agree on voluntarily - that means, I don't want to be subject of a bunch of manipulative sales techniques during pricing negotiations. Moreover, individual pricing used at scale makes it impossible to compare prices, or even develop a sense of what price is fair price. I actively prefer buying from vendors who list prices publicly, so by going the individual price route, you might be losing business of me and people like me.

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by derek_frome on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @07:38PM (#19924825)
I also prefer vendors that list prices, but when they do, it's important to remember that the list price is only the maximum price.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by crispyambulance on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:21PM (#19923339)

     > I don't want to be subject of a bunch of manipulative sales techniques...
If the sales techniques are sufficiently manipulative, you won't actually know you're being manipulated.

There's a reason why sales people in enterprise sales can pull in MM's per year, it's a different level than, say, retail or car sales.

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by dorgo on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:27PM (#19923401)
How do you determine whether a price is targeted/individual? Do you check in different browsers / on different devices?
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by netsharc on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:59PM (#19924212)
I think he means prices where the webpage just says "contact us for a consultation". Here they'd probably google your company and see how much they can get away with charging you.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by TeMPOraL on Thursday May 16, 2019 @02:43AM (#19926722)
I mean that if a webpage just says "contact us for a consultation", I'll first try to find a company that shows their prices publicly - and if I find such, I'll stick to them. I hate "contact us for a consultation".

As for dynamic pricing on-line, AFAIK only airlines do that to significant extent so far. Once other people start, I might start opening in different browsers or not keeping cookies or whatever.

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by zamadatix on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:49PM (#19923044)
That big business does something isn't and indicator of whether it's sketchy or not. I wouldn't even say the comparison maps 1:1 anyways.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by crispyambulance on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:50PM (#19923059)
You're right but whatever it is, that's what "brings in the bacon" for a lot of businesses.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by nateferrero on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:01PM (#19923151)
pricing is an entire industry of it's own, with conferences and such

I see it like advertising - one part of the chain of value, and ensuring that a responsible and fair transaction occurs

Production: control of how something exists

Project management: control of when something

Advertising: control of how you become aware of something

Pricing: control of how you take ownership of something

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by m463 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @10:00PM (#19925525)
> every customer got charged what my mother felt they could pay

I suspect with advertising profiles and amazon purchase histories (and possibly amazon visa card applications requiring household income)... this wonderful "service" previously only available to the rich will be democratized for everyone!

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by selflesssieve on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:12PM (#19923250)
The term is price discrimination.

Offering coupons through the mail, online ad codes etc. You are reaching out to different demos using different marketing techniques and offering or not offering discounts accordingly.

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by dorgo on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:30PM (#19923444)
Or just show different prices to different users. Iphone users usually pay more.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by kortilla on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:38PM (#19923524)
Where? This anecdote is oft repeated with little evidence. The only I example I remember is some place getting caught doing it and having to stop because of the bad press.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by reaperducer on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:50PM (#19923639)
IIRC, it's very common for travel sites to charge higher prices for Apple users.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by paublyrne on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:04PM (#19923758)
Any examples?
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by dymk on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:59PM (#19924214)
https://news.northeastern.edu/2014/10/23/ecommerce-study/

The actual paper: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/cbw/static/pdf/imc151-hannak.pdf...

"As shown in Figure 11, Travelocity alters hotel search results for users who browse from iOS devices." (In particular, alters the prices shown to the user).

Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by nitrogen on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @09:54PM (#19925498)
I was shopping for flights last Christmas and got price X on every site. I started checking out and the price became X+50. I got angry and left and came back later to find the price, on all sites, was X+80. Since I had no choice but to travel I paid X+80. Then for kicks and self torture I checked the price on my Android phone and it was still around X.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by isostatic on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:20AM (#19926358)
Jacking up prices when revisiting the site from the same browser is a separate thing. It’s there to encourage you to buy ASAP as prices appear to be increasing rapidly.
Re:I Charged $18k for a Static HTML Page by ccozan on Thursday May 16, 2019 @03:40AM (#19926947)
That's why I always start with an incognito tab and let FF do sime magic with the fingerprinting.

I get most honest prices.