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Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by blairanderson on Monday May 13, 2019 @11:17AM (#19900111)
You mentioned two processes that have been in place with Amazon Vendors/Manufacturers for many years.

1. Amazon Direct Fulfillment (dropship): Order is shipped directly from the manufacturer to the customer. Amazon pays for the shipping label and contractually "own" the item once it leaves the MFR doors. Amazon incentivizes Manufacturers by paying the freight and loosening shipment deadlines. [1]

2. Ships In Own Container (Amazon SIOC) certification puts the responsibility on the manufacturer to certify their products can be shipped without extra packaging. MFR pays for the testing/certification from a third-party. After July 3st 2019, Amazon will charge/fine manufacturers $2/unit received that are NOT SIOC certified and greater than a certain dimensional threshold. [2]

Its a tough economic balance for Amazon because they want to keep shipping stuff, but many MFRs will literally stop selling items to Amazon on July 31st because the costs of SIOC certification are greater than the estimated product profitability.

Source: I am a consultant for Manufacturers that sell to Amazon. [3]

1: https://www.andersonassociates.net/guides/amazon/what-is-dro...

2: https://www.andersonassociates.net/2018/frustration-free/

3: https://www.andersonassociates.net

Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by mschuster91 on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:08PM (#19900690)
> Ships In Own Container (Amazon SIOC) certification puts the responsibility on the manufacturer to certify their products can be shipped without extra packaging.

Sorry, but how can this be a good idea? I'd hate if I ordered something expensive, for example a digital camera, and every porch pirate (or shady parcel delivery subcontractor) immediately sees "this thing is worth a couple grand", compared with the usual Amazon grey packaging.

Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by blairanderson on Monday May 13, 2019 @03:13PM (#19902832)
Its usually a brown cardboard overbox with a barcode that has extensive droptesting.

More common these days is for manufacturers to produce items, and separately purchase very durable over-boxes that are sent to eCommerce customers like amazon/walmart/bestbuy/etc.

Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by mcintyre1994 on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:11PM (#19900719)
I often see an indicator on Amazon that the product ships in packaging that reveals what it is, with an option to select Amazon packaging instead.
Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by wffurr on Monday May 13, 2019 @01:43PM (#19901713)
If you're worried about porch pirates - use a locker instead. They're already stealing some of your packages anyway.

Shady subcontractors are Amazon's problem.

Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by Avshalom on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:46PM (#19905247)
Its already the reality for most TVs and furniture (at least from Target), child car seats/strollers are the other big one that's always ship-alone
Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by pkaye on Monday May 13, 2019 @01:01PM (#19901260)
I've usually seen an option to select the kind of packaging at time order is placed.
Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by michaelper22 on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:47PM (#19901097)
This box of rubber gloves is SIOC and hopefully isn't too attractive to porch pirates: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JGLWP3S
Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by petra on Monday May 13, 2019 @05:34PM (#19904213)
A side question:

Blair, how do you Amazon's private label effort ? How will that end, would we buy mostly Amazon exclusive brands ?

Re:Amazon rolls out machines that pack orders and replace jobs by blairanderson on Monday May 13, 2019 @06:16PM (#19904551)
Yes its going to continue in a huge way.

Their retail team used to consist mostly of buyers. Most of those resources have shifted to private label.

Imagine a thousand people previously managing external brands now focused on finding/creating private label brands with the data of sales volume at their fingertips.

They have something like 150 private label brands right now.