Yeah I know, the same way each time I touch someone in the street, I get arrested for violently assaulting them. I'm really tired of trying not to touch anyone. /s

I know someone that was raped while not being conscious. She didn't want to have sex with that person. While trying to press charge, she found others persons that had similar experience with that guy. The cops told her tough luck, not to stay with people she didn't trust (it was a friend...) and they threaten her of making false accusation (the prosecutor herself seemed surprised of that and the cops angrily answered that she wouldn't be accused of that, luckily). The prosecutor has not enough proof to go further with it... there should have been at least someone else in that room that could testify.

That's the current state of rape accusation. Pretty far from your "kissing of a sleeping lover" being criminalized.

Is there an incident of a kiss on a sleeping lover being prosecuted?

> It turns the kissing of a sleeping lover into a violent sexual assault

No, it doesn't.

This is over the line and breaks the HN guideline against taking threads further into generic flamewar. Please don't do that. This somewhat-specific flamewar is bad enough as it is.

Also, please stop using HN for ideological battle. We've given you a ton of warnings about that already.

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How is it suppressing the male sexuality? Do you honestly think it is a normal part of the male sexuality to have sex with unconcious women/men?

>It turns the kissing of a sleeping lover into a violent sexual assault. Passion and spontaneity become criminalized.

Right...