Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by toomuchtodo on Sunday May 12, 2019 @02:22PM
(#19893536)
Use of encryption (in the US, FCC part 97) is expressly prohibited as well. Get a commercial (Inmarsat, Iridium) satellite ground station if you want to do this sort of activity.
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Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by firethief on Sunday May 12, 2019 @02:32PM
(#19893599)
Bitcoin doesn't involve any encryption.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by toomuchtodo on Sunday May 12, 2019 @02:35PM
(#19893620)
As long as the FCC interprets statute to not consider signed transactions as encryption (which is a possible outcome).
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by firethief on Sunday May 12, 2019 @02:47PM
(#19893685)
The ban is not on encryption per se (which, as you point out, could be confused with cryptography in general), but on attempting to obscure the content of messages. Obscuring message content is by no means a function of digital signatures.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by RL_Quine on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:48PM
(#19894074)
For ECDSA you can’t provide a signature isn’t arbitrary data. The nonce is by definition not known, so it contains enciphered information.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by firethief on Sunday May 12, 2019 @04:47PM
(#19894466)
That's true but not relevant here because the intent of the signatures is not to conceal the nonces.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by Dylan16807 on Sunday May 12, 2019 @04:00PM
(#19894164)
I think you mean it can't be proven not to have 8 bytes of enciphered information.
But anyway, you can use a hash function to generate the 8 bytes of nonce.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by RL_Quine on Sunday May 12, 2019 @06:43PM
(#19895074)
You can’t prove you did without revealing the nonce, and therefor the private key.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by Dylan16807 on Sunday May 12, 2019 @06:57PM
(#19895130)
You could reveal it once the transaction is used. If anyone really doubts your 8 bytes.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by A2017U1 on Monday May 13, 2019 @02:57AM
(#19896866)
Correct, it involves a variety of cryptographic systems.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by wglb on Sunday May 12, 2019 @05:15PM
(#19894630)
Ok, so why do they call it crypto?
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by firethief on Sunday May 12, 2019 @05:34PM
(#19894725)
It's shortened from "cryptocurrency", which derives from "cryptography". Bitcoin does use cryptography, including cryptographic hash functions (for summarizing data in a tamper-resistant way) and signatures (for attesting to authorship), but it doesn't make use of encryption, as the technology doesn't require concealing the content of any communication.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by parliament32 on Monday May 13, 2019 @04:09PM
(#19903410)
Encryption and cryptography are different things.
Encryption is a type of cryptography, but not all cryptography is encryption.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by _eht on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:12PM
(#19893815)
Yeah, or disagree with policy and law regarding who controls radio spectrum use. Short and long wave pirates serve a purpose and have a longstanding history of testing lines with defiance.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by multjoy on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:29PM
(#19893930)
Citation needed.
Re:Off Grid Bitcoin Transactions Using Ham Radio and Blockst...
by contingencies on Sunday May 12, 2019 @04:20PM
(#19894304)