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Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by telotortium on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:55PM (#19874916)
> This post is actually a meta experiment. > > My hope is that this is actually the 3rd time we’re going to make it on HN. :)

It certainly seems like you'll succeed :)

Does the Web app/Chrome extension support Anki? That's what I hoped I'd be able to use it for.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:02AM (#19874947)
The Electron version does but I actually didn't realize that I could actually make sync work if I used a web extension / chrome extension and just requested access to http://localhost:anki_port ... so I might try that and update the web extension that way.

This would mean you don't need to use the full desktop app.

It's been interesting getting the zen of the desktop + chrome + mobile thing all working and humming along.

We're getting close to having MacOS + Windows + Linux + Web + Mobile...

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by forrestthewoods on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:13AM (#19875239)
HackerNews front page is good for thousands of views. As much as 10,000 if you can get near the top.

r/programming is good for a couple of tens of thousands of views. Reddit is hard and random. Getting the first ~20 votes is soooo random. Subreddits like r/rust are smaller, but passionate, and good for a few thousand views.

r/dataisbeautiful is good for hundreds of thousands of views. It's a very slow subreddit so if you can hit #1 you'll be on it's frontpage for 24 hours plus. I cracked half a million views from there once.

I've never gotten shit for traffic from Twitter or Facebook.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by dshacker on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:05AM (#19874963)
I actually made it once or twice to HNs front page, and what I've seen is that HN is one of the heaviest users of adblockers in the general population. I did a request counter vs an analytics counter, and I'd say you easily get 2x or 3x the traffic google analytics shows.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by vxNsr on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:11AM (#19874992)
Which honestly makes a ton of sense. while the HN crowd might be the biggest beneficiary of ad tech, they also are the most knowledgeable about blocking it and of course know how intrusive and annoying it is.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by paulcole on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:02AM (#19875193)
We call those types of people hypocrites where I come from.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by toyg on Friday May 10, 2019 @08:45AM (#19877175)
It’s just “You don’t get high on your supply”.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by paulcole on Friday May 10, 2019 @10:04AM (#19877790)
When the comparison to a heroin dealer is considered more charitable...
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by vxNsr on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:59PM (#19881674)
I don't disagree.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:08AM (#19874980)
Oh.. that's interesting. I noticed that FF is blocking GA by default now - or at least my configuration.

I think I'm going to inject a tracking pixel to see if you're hypothesis is correct. Just to measure the number of requests.

It would actually be really interesting to see.

Polar has about 15% FF usage right now that hit the site directly.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by DamnInteresting on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:34AM (#19875074)
My site has been front-paged on HN several times as well, and I can corroborate. On those occasions my log files show something like a tenfold uptick in average traffic, while GA registers a tripling or so. When I get front-paged on reddit, by contrast, GA shows about 70-80% as many visitors as indicated in the access log.

Also, my site is supported by donations, and when one of our articles gains traction on HN we get a substantial increase in one-time donors during that day. Other big sites like reddit barely bump the numbers at all, despite often bringing a much greater increase in total visitors.

One time we were front-paged on /r/TodayILearned, and GA showed a peak of 6,680 concurrent visitors. Hotchie motchie.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by forrestthewoods on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:14AM (#19875247)
How do you implement the request counter? I tried to find a better way to get metrics on my blog than Google Analytics but couldn't find a good, easy solution.

And how do you know those views weren't bots/crawlers? Pulling apart "real" traffic from fake seems impossible. :(

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by lancewiggs on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:25AM (#19875042)
You stopped me at " Just login and enter their credentials and they’re in" Providing credentials is at a cost. As you aptly point out in the rest of the post you will use those credentials in the future, and that's to the cost of us, the potential clients.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:39AM (#19875091)
> you will use those credentials in the future, and that's to the cost of us, the potential clients.

How is that? I don't follow.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by lancewiggs on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:01AM (#19875188)
It's a cost to receive and manage any future email, and there is a risk that could get out of hand if a site passes on the email address to others.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by Gys on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:15AM (#19875001)
Polar – an offline web browser with annotations and tagging

(in case anybody else is wondering)

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by lostmsu on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:42AM (#19875104)
It's interesting. From my Show HNs only one got a real spike.

The most recent two went by as if nobody ever saw them. That includes the one I consider the most important (basically, TensorFlow for C#). I feel if it does not start with "Google announces", nobody cares to look.

Maybe I need more clickbait in the titles :/

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by arcturus17 on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:06AM (#19875207)
This guy is spamming his product on here day in and day out.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by smallbigfish on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:46AM (#19875116)
We are "insanely smart" guys.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by gandutraveler on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:52AM (#19875930)
> We are "insanely smart" guys.

We listen to NPR because we are better than you - Luis CK

We read hacker news for same reason :)

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by SubiculumCode on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:06AM (#19875210)
And gals.

But seriously, that is why I come to HN...so I can talk to people smarter than me, or at least, expert in an area I am not.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by GenericsMotors on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:56PM (#19881653)
Careful, HN is also full of blowhards. "Blockchain" and "NoSQL" are dead giveaways.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by nkozyra on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:05AM (#19874962)
Is this high HN traffic? Sites can't routinely be going down with 2k users and 20k page views right?
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by minimaxir on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:16AM (#19875009)
Years ago, when one of my posts made it to #1 on Hacker News, the traffic was so much for my cheap WordPress blog hosted on DreamHost that they "moved" the blog to a more high-demand system and somehow corrupted the database in the process.

In less than 24 hours I learned how static blog sites work and somehow I was able to migrate everything using Google caches.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:06AM (#19874971)
Not modern ones on decent architecture. Going down isn't the problem so much as making sure the content + app you're trying to showcase is working.

If you do a Show HN post and your app doesn't scale or has a glitch it would suck to have everyone have a poor experience.

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by wyqydsyq on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:26AM (#19875046)
Maybe half a decade ago it wasn't uncommon, these days it's pretty rare to see something crash out from HN post DDoS unless it's some kind of webapp that isn't properly scalable
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by whatabackend on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:48AM (#19875125)
NICE BUT ALL MY PDFS HAVE A HEAVY TEAL TINT ON THEM AND I CANT TURN IT OFF AHHHHHHHH IT SEEMS TO BE A FEATURE I CANT TURN OFF BECAUSE IT CORRELATES WITH THE READ-PROGRESS BAR
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:49AM (#19875134)
In Polar and they have a teal tint? Can you create a bug and I'll take a look.. maybe attach a screenshot? I haven't seen this one before.

https://github.com/burtonator/polar-bookshelf/issues

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by delish on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:54AM (#19875152)
Yeah--I thought/think it's a feature, so you know how far you've read, but when I saw it I thought, "_Wow_ that's a strong design statement that I doubt I'll ever get used to."
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:36AM (#19875334)
oh. Sorry. Yes. The pagemarks are overlays showing which portions of documents you've read.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by bdibs on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:36AM (#19875079)
Just a heads up on iOS with Safari your two GA images are wider than the rest of the page.
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:50AM (#19875136)
Thanks! Fixed it!
Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by burtonator on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:37AM (#19875343)
Hey. This is interesting. The title of the post I submitted changed.

Who changed it? Does HN automatically change the titles of posts?

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by WalterGR on Friday May 10, 2019 @01:39AM (#19875349)
I believe it’s done by the mods.

You are to submit URLs with their original titles.

What title did you use in your submission?

Re:Getting Hacker News’d Twice – Lessons Learned for Entrepr... by zelpo on Friday May 10, 2019 @12:17AM (#19875010)
Think this is great information for people like me. I am a serial entrepreneur.