Please don't do political or nationalistic flamewar on HN. The conversation fell way below the acceptability line by this point.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

p.s. We've had to warn you repeatedly about using HN for political or ideological battle. At some point we ban accounts that keep doing that—regardless of what they're arguing for or against—because it's highly destructive of the intellectual curiosity this site exists for. Would you please fix that?

You've proven my point exactly. Your standard for America is perfection - a country that has never done anything wrong or made mistakes. Under your standard, every country is evil. It's a silly way to look at things.

And, I see you've swallowed the Mossadegh narrative hook line and sinker. Iran was in chaos prior to the coup. Mossadegh was not uniformly popular, there were riots on the street. He was on his way out regardless, as he had failed to deliver on many of his promises.

As for Iraq, sure, that didn't turn out well.

By why did you ignore my comment about Taiwan, Japan, Western Europe, etc? You trot out examples of failures, but completely ignore the success stories.

Please don't do political or nationalistic flamewar on HN. The conversation fell way below the acceptability line by this point.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Don't forget "economic warfare", where the US crushes its "enemiy countries" through painful sanctions, which always leaves the poorest portions of those countries in shambles. Not to mention the refugee crisis it creates, which in turn has the "pleasant" effect of lowering wages across the globe.

Wait, so the US is evil for not giving the benefits of it's economy to states it doesn't like/that dislike it? That seems really backwards-- how does anyone else have a right to the US's economy?

Even more, (if I understand your point correctly) the US is also evil for having a good economy and society that refugees want to flee to?

So the US is both evil for having a great economy available to people and also for not making that economy available to people? Is there any way to win besides just not having a good economy (and society)?

Is this just hating on the strong and successful because they are strong and successful?

Lots of accusations here with zero citations.

It's fine, there is a certain collective on HN that do not believe or want to even google United States and the past dealings with the middle East and South America.

America is not the world - Morrissey