I lived in Italy for many years, and one of the more dismaying aspects of the culture is how much some people still identify with actual fascists and communists. They're both terrible ideas that should be widely repudiated by both left and right.

The Brigate Rossa was, like the Baader Meinhof Gang, just evil. But as I recall, the Communists (PCI) by the 90s were just another left wing party, democratic socialist. I think they even changed their name.

I recall rallies where they or someone related was still waving their hammer and sickle flag around.

Italy certainly has its share of modern center-left people, but it still has outright communists as well.

I don't really understand why you're writing as if people who want to eliminate minorities are as bad as people who want to eliminate inequality. It's not relevant

Please do not take HN into generic ideological flamewars. They're boring, they spread, and we don't want them here.

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I don't want it either, that's why I posted since the person I replied to was the one bringing up communism out of no where

I believe you, but please don't post in that way, since it only takes the thread further in the direction we don't want to go.

"I don't really understand why you're writing as if people who want to eliminate babies are as bad as people who want to eliminate abortions" -- A pro-lifer, probably

> as people who want to eliminate inequality

Communists eliminated a whole heck of a lot of minorities.

Also, the only group that killed more communists than the Nazis, were other communists themselves.

I'm sure Nazis themselves would make the same argument as you, about how they actually just support "traditionalist culture" or whatever. But we know what really happened. Same argument applies to communists.

These blanket statements would seem less provocative and more convincing if you backed them up with reliable references.

Sure. Leftist violence against other leftists is well documented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_uprisings_against_th...

Usually one of the first thing that communists do once they are in power is crush the anarchists, and other competing leftist movements.

None of this is controversial.

Soviet repression of gay people was also well documented, as well as Cuban repression/murder of it's gay population.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fidel-castros-horrific-record-...