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Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by c22 on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:08AM (#19838615)
If the system isn't working that implies that there aren't enough committed individuals to change it. If we can't get enough people to work on fixing our relatively simple human-built systems it seems unlikely that they will have sufficient impact on the much larger and more complex natural systems of global health. So while these suggestions are great, I do think we should continue to focus on, explore, and advocate for broader systemic change. If the politicians of the world wont take these problems seriously then we have to vote in new politicians that will or else our failure is ultimately assured.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by perfunctory on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:20AM (#19838708)
> I do think we should continue to focus on, explore, and advocate for broader systemic change.

Absolutely agree. It's not either/or. We need both. But hey, it's easier to advocate for systemic change if you lead by example. See e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/26/greta-th...

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by phs318u on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:13AM (#19838652)
It's not so much that there aren't enough individuals that are committed to change. I think it's partly that people would rather do than be done unto (the feeling of controlling your destiny rather than being controlled), and partly that people can be gamed to act against their own long term interest (ironically being controlled into thinking you're in control when you aren't).
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by pojzon on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:12AM (#19838650)
Im afraid nothing will change to the moment people start dying because of climate change effects. And by that i mean at leadt hundreds of ppl of not thousends.

Fastest move would happen if what im talking about did happen in 1st world countries.

Thats sad masses need such a strong shake up.

Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by rypskar on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:28AM (#19838758)
That might be optimistic. The pessimistic version is that the 1st world would not react before it starts to see a large scale migration from developing countries because of climate change, and the first reaction would be to close the borders.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by ptah on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:37AM (#19838810)
that is already happening yet people are still not moved to action http://climatemigration.org.uk/
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by TeMPOraL on Monday May 06, 2019 @08:43AM (#19838854)
They won't until the border pressure will be so hard the nations will start shooting people trying to cross them.
Re:Up to one million species are on the verge of extinction,... by DoctorOetker on Monday May 06, 2019 @12:02PM (#19840642)
I'm afraid that would have the potential to increase the "it's every man for himself" atmosphere...