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Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by ineedasername on Sunday May 05, 2019 @05:02PM (#19835040)
Yeah, but you still get beat with the $5 wrench. And if it was going to work in compelling you to give the password, it will still be pretty effective getting you to provide access to the cloud storage and the encryption password to it.
Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by dmurray on Sunday May 05, 2019 @06:08PM (#19835384)
A couple of people would get beaten with the wrench the first few times it happened, but after a few weeks and a few high profile cases from Fortune 500 employees of "my CIO is the only one with the key", they'd move on to other targets or other methods.
Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by stale2002 on Sunday May 05, 2019 @05:11PM (#19835090)
How does the low paid border security drone even know you have a cloud storage account?

What country do you live in that has to worry about people being tortured to death on a frequent basis?

This stuff just doesn't happen often, despite what a silly XKCD comic would lead you to believe.

Encryption actually works pretty damn well, for basically all usecases that a normal person would come across.

The world is not a James Bond spy move.

Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by saagarjha on Sunday May 05, 2019 @05:21PM (#19835154)
You're not going to be tortured to death, but there are quite a few things that the government can do to make your life miserable.
Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by mortenjorck on Sunday May 05, 2019 @05:51PM (#19835312)
The $5 wrench isn’t what most people have to worry about; it’s the 5-hour detention without charge.
Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by ddalex on Sunday May 05, 2019 @06:57PM (#19835611)
5 hour detention is nothing - expensed vacation :)

Extraordinary rendition to the Guantanamo Bay is what concerns me.

Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by incompatible on Sunday May 05, 2019 @06:09PM (#19835390)
Maybe also have some relatively uninteresting encrypted files which you can hand over in this situation?
Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by ineedasername on Sunday May 05, 2019 @09:32PM (#19836205)
I'm not saying any of this is likely. But, as the topic was raised, if they break you and you start talking, you will volunteer the information. They don't need to know before hand.

That said, the most practical scenario here is to keep your important files secured somewhere else, cloud or elsewhere, and when they ask you to unlock your phone or laptop you say "Sure!" Because there's nothing to find and you're compliant and helpful so they quickly let you go after a proforma search.

Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by chupasaurus on Monday May 06, 2019 @03:15AM (#19837423)
> The world is not a James Bond spy move.

Yeah, there is no James Bond outside the books and screen. But thermorectal cryptanalysis is out there and still beats most of cyphers with ease. And it's not letal!

Re:Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for ... by zzo38computer on Monday May 06, 2019 @02:10AM (#19837201)
But it will not work if you do not know the password. (It can also be time locked with false data; they don't know whether or not it is the real data.)