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Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by albertgoeswoof on Friday May 03, 2019 @10:23AM (#19818691)
Most non junior developers in the UK (edit: in London) are contractors which starts at about 250 gbp/day, but average is probably more like 600/day. Can easily be as high as 1200 though.

So a contractor with 5 or 6 years experience can easily make over 100k/annum if you knock off some time for holidays, pensions, gaps between contracts etc.

Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by ErrantX on Friday May 03, 2019 @10:59AM (#19819008)
That's not really true. Day rate for a decent SE contractor is about 400/500 (but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare).

But the big thing I disagree with is "most"... the perm industry in the UK is strong!

Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by madeofpalk on Friday May 03, 2019 @11:37AM (#19819348)
> but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare

Is it? I've been contracting in the UK (through my own limited company ofc) for the past two years, at the top end of your band, and had no impression that what I do is rare. I'm glad to see this thread actually, for my next gig I'll definitely push for more money.

Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by ErrantX on Monday May 06, 2019 @04:27AM (#19837695)
Directly with the company in question? or through a resourcing firm? my experience (On the other end of that transaction) is that the former is rarer because working through a specialist contract placement firm (e.g. Spring) has various attractions to a company (albeit higher cost).
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by C1sc0cat on Friday May 03, 2019 @11:55AM (#19819516)
Shure your really outside IR35 ?
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by madeofpalk on Friday May 03, 2019 @07:50PM (#19823277)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to the best of my ability
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by ionised on Friday May 03, 2019 @12:30PM (#19819817)
Why do you say private contracting is rare in the UK? Every software company I've been to here is like 50% contractors.
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by ErrantX on Monday May 06, 2019 @04:24AM (#19837691)
Most companies will contract through a management firm than with the individual directly.
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by C1sc0cat on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @04:52AM (#19847613)
Not really in the UK - its mostly PLC or Umberella Companies for contractors.

The fake contractor aka a body shop where you are a normal employee of some third party is not that common.

Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by pm215 on Friday May 03, 2019 @10:41AM (#19818855)
Do you have a source for "most" here? Most of the senior devs I know are full-time non-contractors (though that is quite possibly just a property of my friend group and location (Cambridge)).
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by wdb on Friday May 03, 2019 @12:16PM (#19819685)
£1200 per day? The max day rate for web development I have seen in London was £650/day but normally £550/day. You can also easily earn £90k as a perm in London.
Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by C1sc0cat on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @04:54AM (#19847618)
Depends almost 20 years ago in BT we paid that for a High end Oracle contractor.

That day rate might be for a big four consultant 20 years ago it was around £900

Re:Guardian records first operating profit since 1998 by infinite8s on Friday May 03, 2019 @12:33PM (#19819846)
Finance is about double that.