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Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by caprese on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:28AM (#19797279)
I should do that

Everytime some staff member says "it will be covered we are just doing x, y, z this is covered"

and then you get a bill from the insurance company and the doctor's office says "we THOUGHT it was covered"

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:34AM (#19797332)
Video recording like that is totally throwing the staff under the bus (they will undoubtedly be talked to about making commitments like that).

I'm sure hospitals will all include a "all promises maid by staff are null and void unless documented in writing" waiver if the practice becomes widespread.

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by will_brown on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:00AM (#19797585)
>I'm sure hospitals will all include a "all promises maid by staff are null and void unless documented in writing"

Despite all the FUD about health care prices, most states have consumer protection laws that require providers/hospitals to provide estimates for services upon request. Therefore, by law (state by state) the hospitals could not employ the tactic you suggest.

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by btrettel on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:25AM (#19797926)
Which states specifically have these laws? What's the typical legal name for these laws? Couldn't find anything on this in a few quick Google searches.
Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by will_brown on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:48AM (#19798220)
In Florida you can checkout Florida Statute 395.301 (Price transparency;itemized patient statement or bill;patient admission status notification).

I know this off hand, and don’t have the time but from there you could probably find a few websites that will reference comparable laws for each state, if they exist.

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by btrettel on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @12:14PM (#19798537)
Thanks. Working from there, this website list many state health care price laws in a PDF:

https://www.pcpcc.org/resource/report-card-state-price-trans...

This is just what I could find quickly. There might be better resources on these laws.

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by will_brown on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @12:47PM (#19798965)
Looks like a really good resource/starting place.

Law is an unforgiving beast so you would always want to refer to the source law they cite, and finding case law (much more difficult task) which references said Law and see how it’s applied/interpreted in practice.

What you linked is certainly much more practical for educational/informational purposes.

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by nullandvoid on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:02AM (#19797610)
And the patient getting thrown under the bus by getting screwed with a 5x bill is fine?

Recording sure sounds like the lesser evil to me

Re:Girl’s $143k bill for snakebite treatment reveals antiven... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:07AM (#19797678)
>And the patient getting thrown under the bus by getting screwed with a 5x bill is fine?

Where did I say or imply that?

I think it's fully worth it and wouldn't lose sleep over throwing the staff under the bus. If you want to work for an establishment that screws people getting screwed back occasionally is just one of the risks.