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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by dkarl on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:12AM (#1978411)
Do you think it's implausible that Apache could fork Java and Oracle could be eventually left with nothing but a trademark and some loyal corporate customers? With so many prominent Java folks leaving Oracle, I'm not sure what kind of leadership or moral authority they could muster to convince people that they're the most more credible center for the Java community. The community would suffer from a fork, no question, and it would be severely weakened, but I think Java users would prefer to go through such a tribulation rather than write off Java completely.

Personally, I think Apache should fork Java and kick it off with a renaming competition, just to get us past the most traumatic part.

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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by kqr2 on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:20AM (#1978431)
I thought the main problem with forking without getting the Java(TM) seal of approval is you may be liable for patent infringement.
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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by Corrado on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:44AM (#1978459)
Yes, well you couldn't get the Java(TM) seal of approval but there is nothing saying you couldn't make your own "seal of approval". Fork Java, create your own Test Compatibility Kit, and start approving implementations. Done.
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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by zokier on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:11AM (#1978711)
That wouldn't help against Oracles patents, which they are seemingly happy to use.
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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by dkarl on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:48AM (#1978463)
May, might, could, Apache and Google have lawyers who can provide a much better answer to that question if they're asked (and paid) to do it. Even if the odds are less than even, if people really believe that Java is dead under Oracle, they will risk a lot for a chance to salvage the massive investment that thousands of companies and thousands of open-source projects have made in Java.
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Re:Apache loses Java showdown vote to Oracle by rmc on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @07:15AM (#1978824)
Do you think it's implausible that Apache could fork Java

I thought Apache already did that, that's how the Apache Harmony project started. This was all done before Java was open source and one needed a 'free as in speech' java.

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