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Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by everdev on Monday April 29, 2019 @11:53AM (#19779495)
Yes, service companies usually sell for 2-3.5x annual recurring revenue (ARR), which is measured by averaging your last 3-5 years of revenue.

And you'll need to be easily replaceable.

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by runako on Monday April 29, 2019 @01:27PM (#19780477)
The company in the article appears to be more of a software company & less of a service company. From the conversations I've had, I would expect to see a valuation in the range of 2-5x the company's earnings.

(The term of art is SDE/Seller's Discretionary Earnings, and is basically the sum of all the money the owners are able to take out of the business, including paychecks and bonuses.)

FEI and other brokers write a bunch about valuing small businesses: https://feinternational.com/blog/how-do-you-value-an-online-...

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by slivanes on Monday April 29, 2019 @01:10PM (#19780274)
Recurring revenue or profit?
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by gnicholas on Monday April 29, 2019 @01:56PM (#19780771)
In the few conversations I've had, it's always been revenue. This provides an incentive to spend lots of money on user acquisition, even if doing so means losing money (or not making as much).

I wish there were a standard assumption that if a business is profitable, then we use profit instead of revenue, and (crucially) use a much larger multiplier. It feels like I'm always having to remind folks that revenue ≠ profit, and that normal guidelines (we invest in companies with $X00,000 revenues) might need to be adjusted for smaller, breakeven or profitable businesses.

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by einarvollset on Monday April 29, 2019 @02:09PM (#19780917)
Typically an earnings multiple will be higher than a revenue multiple (e.g 8x vs 4x - which can be equivalent if the profit margin is large enough)
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by cosmie on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:57PM (#19782015)
Could be either one. The methodology you use for valuation reflects your priorities. Warren Buffet calculates valuations based on free cash flow[1].

For what it's worth, the company I work for currently just got sold off for $4.4bn USD by our parent company. Based on quarterly filings, that equated to about 2x annual revenue and 9-10x EBITDA for last year (not sure what the multiple was for net).

[1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/66442

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by everdev on Monday April 29, 2019 @01:58PM (#19780794)
It's almost always revenue, but I'm not sure why.

I'd pay more for a business doing $500k in revenue with $250k profit (50% margins) than a business doing $1M in revenue with $100k in profit (10% margins).

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by einarvollset on Monday April 29, 2019 @02:13PM (#19780958)
Usually it's dependent on the person selling (or their advisor). If a company is very profitable (e.g 50% margins) then an earnings multiple makes sense and the advisor will essentially present the company in such a way that it's pretty clear to the potential buyer that they're expected to think of valuation in terms of profit multiple. Incidentally, lots more buyers out there are comfortable doing that then revenue multiple. However, a revenue multiple has become the norm for companies with very highly recurring revenue (e.g. SaaS) and where the company has been run for growth instead of profit. There are many fewer buyers who will do that though, and getting leverage for deals like that is harder (a big driver of returns for some funds)
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by charlesdm on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @02:51AM (#19785690)
No sensible buyer (i.e. not strategic) is going to pay high revenue multiples for a private illiquid company. Exceptions to this might be when they have some advantage (existing customers etc) to sell to. But nearly all PE shops overpay on large deals.
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by einarvollset on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @07:58PM (#19802979)
By strategic, I don’t mean “sensible” or “smart”, I mean it’s a buyer where the asset is considered strategic, hence it would always fit under your “when they have some advantage” umbrella.
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by brianwawok on Monday April 29, 2019 @02:48PM (#19781360)
It assumes a lot of costs are fixed, and do not scale with income. Software is weird like that.

Double the 500k R / 250k P company without more expenses, and you now have 1 M R / 750k P. Double the 1M R / 100k P and you now have 2 M R / 1.1 M P.

Especially if a firm can come in and do a round of layoffs (Replace support with outsourced, fire marketing, replace devs with outsourced).. it would be pretty easy to get the margin really really high for a few years, which is all they may be looking for.

Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by robocat on Monday April 29, 2019 @04:07PM (#19782118)
Also maybe, some forms of financing are based on revenue, and just care that there is enough profit to cover the interest e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue-based_financing
Re:I Merged My One-Person Software Company with a Bigger Pla... by kreetx on Monday April 29, 2019 @01:49PM (#19780713)
Revenue would be nicer I guess, but if it's software that simply works then maybe they are not much different? Not how revenue and profit compare in other types of industries that is.