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Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by leemailll on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:31AM (#19728956)
Leisure also is a luxury, not everyone could afford it when it is needed most
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by pseudosudoer on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:51AM (#19729180)
True, but the article isn't trying to say that everyone _can_ have time for leisure, but rather everyone _should_ have time for leisure. An optimist may say that with the advent of automation people should have more time for leisure, where a pessimist may say that the poor will grow poorer.
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by bilbo0s on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:55AM (#19729213)
Why can't it be both?

Sure the poor will grow more poor, and also have a lot more free time due to not having employment. That's not necessarily a good thing, but it does agitate for both the optimistic and pessimistic views being likely at once in the future.

Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by LeifCarrotson on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @11:15AM (#19729434)
> have a lot more free time due to not having employment

I assume you're advocating their support through some social safety net that provides them with basic necessities.

Because currently, not having employment is a major loss in free time: you spend all your time trying to meet core needs like food, shelter, and clothing. Where an employed person can simply order take-out, hire a contractor to fix their house, and buy new clothes as required, an impoverished person will be scraping together safe food and trying to cook it to be palatable, sheltering in uncomfortable or unsafe places, and repairing clothes that are long since worn out. And if they do go to work, they earn a pittance that's insufficient to pay rent, much less afford luxuries like prepared food, home ownership, or durable clothing.

Unless you're extremely optimistic about social services improving, the poor being poorer puts heavier burdens on their time, not lighter.

Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by onemoresoop on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @11:13AM (#19729412)
Leisure + stress = worries
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by Noos on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @05:59PM (#19733367)
The problem is many jobs with high socialiability and variability as mentioned in the article are often very time demanding jobs that require constant coverage. There are also financial realities in that people are often expensive to add, train, and retain in order to enable enough leisure.

Automation if anything makes this worse since people will often decrease to fill the need instead of hire more.

Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by onionionio on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:42AM (#19729077)
It's not a luxury. It's necessary. The fact that not everyone can afford it doesn't change that.
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by Funes- on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:47AM (#19729137)
I'd say that the fact that not everyone can afford it makes it a luxury as well as a necessity. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by wes-k on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:59AM (#19729259)
Eh yes and no.. There's plenty of people who do part-time work just to make ends-meet that have a lot of leisure time.

Work to live or live to work.

Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by corn_dog on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @02:09PM (#19731225)
"At either end of the social spectrum there lies a leisure class"
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Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by mrybczyn on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @04:21PM (#19732429)
and 30 percent young adult unemployment...
Re:Leisure Is Our Killer App by i4t on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @04:45AM (#19736611)
believe what you want, lol