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Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by orthecreedence on Monday April 15, 2019 @12:07AM (#19663072)
You should not be getting downvoted. There is nothing wrong with the government taking equity (or at least dividends) in the companies it invests in that nobody else wants to. It's taking a risk. It should get a reward.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by chris_va on Monday April 15, 2019 @12:28AM (#19663119)
Successful companies pay a lot in taxes (through employment if nothing else), so technically the government does see dividends (albeit in a non-traditional form). However, given the nature of government, it should technically be enough if society benefits more than the expected investment amount, regardless of the government payback.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by reitzensteinm on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:02AM (#19663380)
It's not that simple; every company pays a lot in taxes, so the government doesn't benefit more than if a random VC had put the money in instead.

There's also the opportunity cost of the investment; the yield has to be compared to things like food stamps, education, basic research etc. There's a lot of low hanging fruit a well run government could be picking.

I would also tend towards the view that if the government invests like a VC it should take equity. If these companies genuinely have no other option, I don't see why this would be a deal killer. If they have VC they could take instead, the government shouldn't be offering free money.

Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by symlock on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:00PM (#19668391)
The more companies though, the more times the same dollar can be taxed.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by DSingularity on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:19AM (#19663445)
We shouldn’t set profit expectations because of their future consequences on how the program will be judged.

The financial goals of this program shouldn’t be profit — or even break even. Any profit expectations will undermine the the way this program is evaluated.

Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by arcticfox on Monday April 15, 2019 @09:58AM (#19665319)
Right, but it also seems irresponsible to completely ignore an obvious revenue opportunity where it exists. IMO with proper branding as some type of "Give back" tax on successful graduates, it wouldn't need to be close to break even, and could help the program grow.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by orthecreedence on Monday April 15, 2019 @11:44AM (#19666130)
Screw the profit, give the money back to US citizens via a general social dividend.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by zymhan on Monday April 15, 2019 @12:17PM (#19666451)
We're talking about a tiny investment fund. It would be good if it just managed to break even.
Re:America's Seed Fund: Up to $1.5M for Zero Equity by zymhan on Monday April 15, 2019 @12:16PM (#19666437)
Yeah but then you have to have that same agency deciding when it wants to sell shares, how it wants to use any voting power, etc. It adds overhead to the program that will negate some of the returns from equity.