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Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by chupa-chups on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @02:52PM (#19627660)
This video from "Mentour pilot" has been deleted (supposedly upon request from boeing):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgBft-79U8

You can see it here (european version of youtube): https://vimeo.com/329558134

Or more info here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19627525

Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by zippergz on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:04PM (#19627755)
Vimeo is based in NYC USA, how is it "European version of YouTube"?
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by chupa-chups on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:23PM (#19627923)
You're right. I was always of the opinion vimeo was european (it incorporated quite some european platforms like viva)
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by cjbprime on Thursday April 11, 2019 @12:39AM (#19631193)
You might have been thinking of DailyMotion, which actually fits that description.
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by IWeldMelons on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @06:37PM (#19629427)
It has artsy, hipster and therefore "European" flavour to it though...
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by the_mitsuhiko on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:01PM (#19627730)
It was not deleted on the request of boeing but because the creator did not feel okay about it. He addresses the issue here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q17vykscK0w
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by chupa-chups on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:03PM (#19627742)
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by Diederich on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:07PM (#19627784)
Strongly suggest everyone check out the video. It's...kind of shocking.
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by treis on Thursday April 11, 2019 @09:09AM (#19634060)
It's also misleading. The pilot pulling back on the stick makes the wheel harder to turn. If he stopped doing that and helped turn the trim wheel they would have been able to adjust it.

All that video really shows is that if you do it wrong it doesn't work. Not all that shocking

Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by cm2187 on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:21PM (#19627900)
One thing I don't understand is that if the trim is stuck in a position that pushes the plane down, shouldn't the high speed (and therefore strong air flow) help to put the trim back in a neutral position rather than making it more difficult?
Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by 05 on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @04:43PM (#19628591)
Because of the nose up elevator..

Here's the explanation in one picture: [1]

Here's the article the picture came from: [2]

[1] https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6c8hfXS8WO4/XKd93voscrI/AAAAAAAAF...

[2] https://www.satcom.guru/2019/04/stabilizer-trim-loads-and-ra...

Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by chupa-chups on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @03:24PM (#19627928)
Nope, it is a jackscrew, and the aerodynamic load makes moving difficult, regardless of the direction.

See https://www.satcom.guru/2018/11/stabilizer-trim.html

Re:Boeing 737 MAX crash and the rejection of ridiculous data by cjbprime on Thursday April 11, 2019 @12:40AM (#19631200)
I wonder how the simulator decides to change the required torque on the trim wheels. I suppose it must be a full aerodynamic load model?