Re:Alacritty Terminal Version 0.3.0 Release
by Twirrim on Monday April 08, 2019 @09:31PM
(#19610867)
Still no tabs, and it's clear they have no intention of adding any.
I think they're somewhat naive in the claim that such are "best left to a window manager or terminal multiplexer", but I guess I'm never likely to win that argument with them. There's a reason why many terminal applications have ended up picking up tabs, and in no small part that's because Windows Managers almost always take a lot of work, or flat out don't even support it. I like and use tmux extensively, but it's never likely to replace tabs for me.
Re:Alacritty Terminal Version 0.3.0 Release
by bruce_one on Monday April 08, 2019 @10:38PM
(#19611260)
I moved from urxvt-tabbed to alacritty and have tmux config to make it act exactly like urxvt-tabbed (shortcuts, display, and tab navigation/reordering). (Technically the scrollback is different now that I think about it... But I'm now used to it, but did prefer the urxvt(-tabbed) style. Oh, text selection isn't quite as good either (but that just be some more config.))
Alacritty just launches straight into tmux so I treat them like urxvt.
I thought it would be annoying (I'd previously decided not to try the suckless terminal because of it); but in the end it's all working pretty well.
Just a perspective on it - depending on the type of tab interface you want I guess :-)
(In summary, I think they have made a reasonable decision to not support it; but that's just my experience and how I use it :-) I know opinions will vary :-) )
Re:Alacritty Terminal Version 0.3.0 Release
by anarcat on Monday April 08, 2019 @10:00PM
(#19611046)
this is awesome. i really like the text reflow and clickable links support! good job!
i see latency is still on the roadmap, when i test it in my roadmap, it didn't behave so badly but there was still room for improvement when compared to older terminals like xterm derivatives. there wasn't a release back in may 2018 when i made my review, and it seems you made three (!) since then so congrats on that. any word on how latency improved or worsened since then?
update: it looks like results are fairly similar to last time:
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Re:Alacritty Terminal Version 0.3.0 Release
by st3fan on Monday April 08, 2019 @09:41PM
(#19610937)
Is there a trick to make the alt key behave like esc+key? Without this, emacs is pretty unusable in Alacritty.
I did find a few filed issues and they all seem to suggest to add a huge number of key mappings for every possible combination with alt. Which seems ... odd.
I think they're somewhat naive in the claim that such are "best left to a window manager or terminal multiplexer", but I guess I'm never likely to win that argument with them. There's a reason why many terminal applications have ended up picking up tabs, and in no small part that's because Windows Managers almost always take a lot of work, or flat out don't even support it. I like and use tmux extensively, but it's never likely to replace tabs for me.
Alacritty just launches straight into tmux so I treat them like urxvt.
I thought it would be annoying (I'd previously decided not to try the suckless terminal because of it); but in the end it's all working pretty well.
Just a perspective on it - depending on the type of tab interface you want I guess :-)
(In summary, I think they have made a reasonable decision to not support it; but that's just my experience and how I use it :-) I know opinions will vary :-) )
i see latency is still on the roadmap, when i test it in my roadmap, it didn't behave so badly but there was still room for improvement when compared to older terminals like xterm derivatives. there wasn't a release back in may 2018 when i made my review, and it seems you made three (!) since then so congrats on that. any word on how latency improved or worsened since then?
update: it looks like results are fairly similar to last time:
https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty/issues/673#issuecomment-4...
and don't listen to people complaining about tabs: that's best left to window managers or muxers. lean and mean is the way to go. ;)
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Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
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Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
I did find a few filed issues and they all seem to suggest to add a huge number of key mappings for every possible combination with alt. Which seems ... odd.