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Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by walkingolof on Sunday April 07, 2019 @07:55AM (#19596234)
Wonder what this decision is baserad on, its non-ionized radiation and may confuse bees etc but humans ....?
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by xchip on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:00AM (#19596256)
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by Symmetry on Sunday April 07, 2019 @09:22AM (#19596635)
Those guidelines are all about the heating effects of microwave radiation on flesh, the same way that an animal placed in a microwave oven would be injured or killed. And the FCC has established a limit for exposure of 1.6 W/kg where we can be sure that you aren't anywhere near having parts of you cooked.

Sufficiently intense microwave exposure can be a health hazard but there's nothing subtle about it, like there is with ionizing radiation which can make you sick days or weeks after exposure or give you cancer.

For 5G in particular the radio waves will tend to not penetrate as far into you body. Some militarizes have actually developed non-lethal crowd control weapons that cause a burning sensation in the victims' skins with the same sort of ~100GHz waves used by 5G but at a much, much higher power than the FCC would allow for consumer devices.

Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by jcims on Sunday April 07, 2019 @10:00AM (#19596807)
Is that 1.6W per kg of exposed tissue or for the whole critter (e.g. 160W for a 100kg manbeast)?

I put my hand on an antenna coupling plate for one of those through the glass CB antennas, and keyed the mic. This CB transmitted at 4W. It truly felt like someone heated the tip of a dagger and stabbed the palm of my hand with it. Unbelievably painful.

Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by Symmetry on Sunday April 07, 2019 @11:24AM (#19597343)
The limit is that no particular gram of your flesh can be exposed to more than 1.6W/kg.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by jcims on Sunday April 07, 2019 @01:44PM (#19598476)
I wonder how they determine how much energy is absorbed. In my example above, CB radio operates at ~27MHz. Most folks would say that’s going to pass right through, but damn if it didn’t cook me.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by detuur on Sunday April 07, 2019 @10:07AM (#19596848)
I feel it's pretty obviously per exposed tissue. It's not so much that your mass affects your resistance to it, but that the radiation needs a certain density to cook your hands.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by swader99 on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:08AM (#19596294)
Try sleeping for a week with your cell phone on airplane mode and your wifi unplugged. It certainly won't kill you but it causes oxidative stress on your cells. 5G just ups the intensity to 11.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by 32032141 on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:09AM (#19596301)
What you're saying has quite literally no basis in fact.

Counter to it significantly, there's a heap more powerful non-ionizing transmission than things you have locally in very similar bands, like hundreds of kilowatt TV and FM radio transmitters. Any "effect" you would be seeing is placebo or nocebo depending on the state of your "airplane mode" switch.

Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by shrewduser on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:19AM (#19596357)
don't forget the lights in your room, much higher output and much higher frequencies than your phone.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by laHiesh1 on Sunday April 07, 2019 @09:49AM (#19596745)
This is a prime example of confirmation bias, you think it's having a positive effect therefore it's having a positive effect. It's a sugar pill.

This nonsense is no better than anti-vax parents that believe because two kids at her children's school were diagnosed with autism and had vaccines that it must mean vaccines cause autism.

If you're going to make claims like this, at least provide some evidence otherwise it's not constructive to make such claims.

Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by saagarjha on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:10AM (#19596308)
> Try sleeping for a week with your cell phone on airplane mode and your wifi unplugged.

What is this supposed to do?

Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by swombat on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:23AM (#19596372)
Presumably, offer a sense of relaxation and peace - mostly through a combination of the placebo effect and not spending so much time looking at the internet, I guess!
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by recrof on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:43AM (#19596465)
I guess you won't be bothered with app notifications, unwanted calls or sms messages. That's about it.
Re:Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now by sathackr on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:30AM (#19596400)
[citation needed]