News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by dplgk on Saturday April 06, 2019 @10:48AM (#19590987)
So the value prop is markdown. Besides that, you have to compete equally with Mailchimp, etc which is impossible. Why not offer your markdown parsing as a service layer on top of existing providers' APIs?
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by jonathanbull on Saturday April 06, 2019 @02:05PM (#19592127)
Speaking as a direct competitor of Mailchimp (CEO of EmailOctopus.com), I strongly disagree. It's an enormous market and there are plenty of ways to differentiate yourself.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by chris140957 on Saturday April 06, 2019 @10:54AM (#19591009)
Effectively, that's exactly what I'm doing with AWS.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by jen729w on Saturday April 06, 2019 @05:29PM (#19593109)
Some of us actively dislike what Mailchimp has become and welcome the alternatives.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by dplgk on Saturday April 06, 2019 @05:41PM (#19593177)
Same here.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by MattyMc on Saturday April 06, 2019 @12:23PM (#19591514)
You can definitely compete with the likes of Mailchimp. It's a big market.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by BjoernKW on Saturday April 06, 2019 @01:01PM (#19591704)
Reliable mail deliverability is no small problem, however, and one that by and large has already been solved by other providers.

If a new competitor enters this market that competitor will have to solve this problem again without being able to provide an additional benefit to customers.

So, building your own email delivery infrastructure - even if by merely using existing cloud-based infrastructure such as AWS SES - might prove to be an uphill battle.

It might still be worth it though in order to remain independent of third parties.

Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by _asciiker_ on Saturday April 06, 2019 @09:39PM (#19594232)
Founder of Sentopia.net here... I actually agree, we would love to integrate a better campaign editor in our platforms, since we have our own delivery engine and don't rely on Amazon SES.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by PerfectElement on Saturday April 06, 2019 @12:46PM (#19591615)
> you have to compete equally with Mailchimp

Why would they need to compete equally with Mailchimp?

Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by bhouston on Saturday April 06, 2019 @01:22PM (#19591826)
MailChimp is crazy expensive for mailing lists of size.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by jonathanbull on Saturday April 06, 2019 @02:08PM (#19592138)
If this is a problem you're having, I recommend checking out a service that integrates with Amazon SES. This is what we do (EmailOctopus.com) but there are plenty others out there. You'll generally save up to 5x on Mailchimp prices.
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by shortformblog on Saturday April 06, 2019 @03:55PM (#19592670)
I've been using EmailOctopus for more than two years and would highly recommend it! (This is unsolicited, by the way.)
Re:Show HN: Maildown – Markdown email campaigns by jonathanbull on Monday April 08, 2019 @07:17PM (#19610106)
So glad to hear this!