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Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by muro on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:41PM (#19584341)
You have to pay more for Spotify just so Apple can take their cut.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by millstone on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:48PM (#19584427)
You don't though - both are $10 a month. So a price difference can't explain Apple Music's rising popularity.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by SirensOfTitan on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:11PM (#19584713)
Apple recently pushed 2 push notifications to my phone related to promotional pricing for Apple Music. Apple disallows Spotify to advertise promotions in-app.

Apple disallows Spotify access to full Watch APIs and Siri APIs they themselves leverage for Apple Music.

Apple also occasionally bullies Spotify by keeping app review in limbo.

Additionally, Spotify eats the 30% Apple tax, and I would imagine the costs for music licensing rights are fairly inelastic.

Apple is not playing fair. They don’t even follow their own App Store rules.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by threeseed on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:19PM (#19584826)
I received those notifications like everyone and they were all sent purely by the app itself. Meaning you could turn them off just like any other app.

Seen no evidence that Apple is sending effectively system notifications masquerading as Apple Music.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by SirensOfTitan on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:22PM (#19584864)
Guidelines:

> Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used for advertising, promotions, or direct marketing purposes or to send sensitive personal or confidential information. Abuse of these services may result in revocation of your privileges.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by threeseed on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:41PM (#19585116)
Not sure if you own an iPhone but many apps ignore that rule.

But that's not what I am talking about. It's this alleged situation where Apple is sending Apple Music notifications not from the app but from the OS itself.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by SirensOfTitan on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:52PM (#19585249)
Yeah sorry, you’re right, I edited my comment and removed that part, thanks!
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by ValentineC on Friday April 05, 2019 @06:12PM (#19587516)
>> Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used for advertising, promotions, or direct marketing purposes or to send sensitive personal or confidential information.

Serious question: how do I report apps that violate this guideline?

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by mleo on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:52PM (#19585247)
Dominos is the biggest offender of this of any app I have ever seen. Apple does not make any money from the in app purchases since it is physical goods, yet I see no push from Apple to revoke Dominos app. Again, rules are applied inconsistent based on company.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by scarface74 on Friday April 05, 2019 @09:40PM (#19588615)
Spotify can use the same API that Pandora and Overcast use to play audio.

Spotify doesn’t “eat” the 30% cut. You haven’t been able to sign up for Spotify through the App Store in years.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by Despegar on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:17PM (#19584796)
>Additionally, Spotify eats the 30% Apple tax, and I would imagine the costs for music licensing rights are fairly inelastic.

They don't because they disabled it years ago. Also it's not really Apple's problem that Spotify paying for distribution makes their business worse off. They should just eat the cost just like they do when all those wireless carriers that bundle Spotify take their cut.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by genieyclo on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:24PM (#19584892)
The Spotify situation is basically the main reason I haven’t bought Watch yet.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by SirensOfTitan on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:27PM (#19584929)
I've really wanted a HomePod too but have held out because Apple requires the user to use Apple Music to stream music off of it.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by bduerst on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:05PM (#19585361)
Apple doesn't allow third party music services on HomePod?
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by newscracker on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:13PM (#19585994)
Nope. You can use AirPlay to stream music from other services (like Spotify) through your iOS/macOS device to the HomePod (while using voice commands, if you wish, to that device), but Apple Music can be natively played by the HomePod by issuing voice commands directly to it.

So far, HomePod is looking like a Version 0 product from Apple. Given that it’s not even sold in many countries yet (compared to iPhone/iPad/Macs), it will be a while until it becomes a little more open. Looks like Apple hasn’t yet completely figured out the market and utility for it.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by DevKoala on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:51PM (#19584463)
Siri integration did it for me. I have CarPlay and Spotify just didn’t support Siri controls the way Apple Music does. It’s always about the features.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by Keats on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:58PM (#19584544)
You mean the integration Apple is not allowing Spotify to implement?
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by millstone on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:25PM (#19584903)
This got opened up a lot in iOS 12 with Shortcuts.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by DevKoala on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:49PM (#19584442)
People dismiss the cost of maintaining the platform. I believe Apple’s cut is too much, but Spotify has to pay for the platform, the same way artists pay Spotify for a platform to share their music.
Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by threeseed on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:08PM (#19584670)
It's not a cost of maintaining the platform.

It's a cost for the distribution channel i.e. a cost for Spotify to easily access the hundreds of millions of iPhone users with just a few clicks on an app submission form.

Re:Apple Music Overtakes Spotify in U.S. Subscribers by DevKoala on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:28PM (#19586141)
The distribution channel is part of the platform.