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Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by elcomet on Friday April 05, 2019 @10:47AM (#19583047)
It's a regressive tax, as it affects everyone at the same rate. Modern tax systems are progressive, ie people get different tax rates depending on their income.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by ijpoijpoihpiuoh on Friday April 05, 2019 @10:49AM (#19583067)
"As it affects everyone at the same rate." That's a flat tax. A regressive tax is one that affects the poor more.

However, you are right that it is probably regressive, since the rich normally place more of their wealth percentage-wise in non-cash assets than poor people do.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by clavalle on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:05AM (#19583241)
A flat tax is regressive. It affects the poor more since each marginal dollar affects their lifestyle to a greater degree.

It is the difference between not being able to afford childcare and not being able to afford a second vacation home.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by ijpoijpoihpiuoh on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:02PM (#19584596)
> A flat tax is regressive [because what matters is utility of money].

It's fine to think that, but normally when people are talking about tax progressiveness, they are thinking about the fractional tax on dollars, not "utils". Otherwise, you'd also call our existing, progressive taxation scheme "regressive," since it still probably taxes poor people's utils at a higher rate than rich people. And there would probably not anywhere in the world be a tax scheme that can properly be called progressive.

One good rule of thumb, IMO, is that when you want to change the meaning of a classifier such that all extant instances of the classified type fall into a single bucket, that's probably not a useful change. YMMV.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by wavefunction on Friday April 05, 2019 @10:57AM (#19583156)
A flat tax is regressive in nature since the wealthy demand a greater share of the services provided by civil society.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by zulln on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:06AM (#19583252)
Do they really 'demand a greater share' in proportion with how much more they contribute?
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by cannonedhamster on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:50AM (#19583716)
Police protect assets, fire services protect assets, schools are better in wealthy districts, The IRS targets poor and middle class because it's easier. Courts give better outcomes to the wealthy. Businesses are generally started by those with money. Pretty sure that the wealthy use significantly more resources because they have more to protect.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by mastox on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:29PM (#19584969)
But where's "with how much more they contribute?" part of the answer? Such as the jobs created?
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by AlexTWithBeard on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:06AM (#19583260)
I would think that most public services, such as public schools or public transportation are consumed by lower and middle class people.

The upper class has their own private version of pretty much everything.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by SilasX on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:05AM (#19583246)
Even if true, you need to make that inference explicit, because that's a confusing, non-standard usage of "flat tax" and "regressive" tax.

Second, can you show your basis for thinking that? I would think it's the opposite: the wealthy aren't using the public schools, free health care, etc.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by jngreenlee on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:06AM (#19583259)
You know, that's probably debatable. The high wealthy also spend a lot on private services above and beyond what's publically available. Private security, planes, accountant and legal teams, private doctors, etc.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by mrmrcoleman on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:06AM (#19583262)
This seems counter intuitive to me but I’m not saying you’re wrong. Could you share more?
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by gefh on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:03AM (#19583215)
Utility of wealth is non linear.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by rorykoehler on Friday April 05, 2019 @10:37PM (#19588821)
That's why I included ubi in essentials. The thing this solves is tax avoidance evasion.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by dredmorbius on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:42PM (#19586265)
Inflation's greatest impact is on those holding cash reserves or dollar-denominated assets: bank deposits, loans, mortgages, bonds (federal, state/local, corporate), insurance policies, annuities, cash-denominated contracts, and the like.

The cash-poor with few or no financial holdings or savings, are largely unaffected, as are those holding non-cash assets (real property, capital, commodities, stocks).