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Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by Lowkeyloki on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:40PM (#19578887)
What browser would you suggest instead? I feel a bit cornered, especially now that literally every alternative is based on chromium.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by aphextron on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:50PM (#19578945)
Good question. Other than Firefox, Webkit/Blink based browsers are pretty much the only thing usable on the modern web without crashing. That leaves ungoogled Chromium, which unless you're compiling it yourself (good luck) means just blindly trusting some random internet person for binaries. There's really no good answer at this point.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by hollerith on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:11PM (#19579043)
Worse: even if the person (or organization) providing the binary is well-meaning, they would need some serious resources (mostly programmers) to provide security updates quickly enough.

The least resource-intensive way to provide attack-resistance near the level provided by Google's Chrome team would probably be to notify the user when a vulnerability is disclosed so that the user can either switch to Chrome or restrict their browsing to safe sites till the binary provider can get a security update out.

I know of no one doing that or providing timely security updates however except Google, possibly Opera, possibly Brave and probably some day soon Microsoft.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by geowwy on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:59PM (#19578990)
This site suggests IceCat, Ungoogled Chromium, Iridium or Pale Moon: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/browsers.html

The also have a guide for enhancing privacy in Firefox

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by protomyth on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:16PM (#19579060)
After this discussion, I would think very hard before using Pale Moon https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19410928
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by Lowkeyloki on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:52AM (#19580325)
I would consider IceCat, but it looks like development has fallen behind Firefox considerably.

I mean no offense by this but I consider myself a privacy wonk and that website is a bit too tin foil hat even for me.

I think we're in a bad way as far as choices go for browsers these days, but Firefox seems like the best of a bad situation to me. If people are still concerned, they should take a look at the changes made to Firefox for the Tor browser.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by atomical on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:16PM (#19579056)
There's also Brave browser.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by jasonlotito on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:11AM (#19579632)
No. Brave is collecting money on people's behalf without their consent.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by atomical on Monday April 08, 2019 @11:55PM (#19611652)
Most of the BAT being donated is coming directly from the User Growth Pool.

Do you block ads without the publisher's consent? If so, you are in a much more morally precarious situation.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by narag on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:55PM (#19578968)
What's wrong with Chromium?

It's a honest question. I understand you'd say that about Chrome, but I thought that Chromium being open source it isn't exactly in the same bag.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by gruez on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:57PM (#19578976)
No resistfingerprinting, or any meaningful about:config entries.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by zobzu on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:10AM (#19579882)
honestly, its slow. icecat is quite nice.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by random878 on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:42AM (#19580274)
I like Icecat (annoyingly not in the Debian repos).

I've also started to make use of text browsers. Links and Links2 are two that I use. Links2 is a nice halfway option as it will support images too.

I find them great for websites where I want to read info, but the interface is ironically designed to make that harder than it should be. News sites are a perfect example. Text browsers turn them from bloated billboards back into a readable format.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by kylek on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:23PM (#19579399)
I don't think anyone has mentioned Opera yet. Why? It's quite a bit snappier than FF imo, and has extensions like uBlock Origin/HTTPS Everywhere/Privacy Badger available (and the ability to install Chrome extensions).

Edit: I know it's chromium-based, but still wondering!

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by detaro on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:27PM (#19579426)
Going to a closed-source browser owned by a big chinese company because you're worried about Mozilla's open source browser seems like a hard sell.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by gowld on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:55PM (#19578969)
What's wrong with chromium?
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by sanxiyn on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:27PM (#19579114)
Chromium phones home, hard.
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Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by ripdog on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:32AM (#19580509)
It reinforces Google's control of the internet, and helps convince webmasters that the only browser they need to test for is Chrome.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by who_what_why on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:56PM (#19585287)
Chromium is open source much like Android and Linux are open source.
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Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by asfgoinionio on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:00PM (#19578993)
They're remarkably scummy. They swapped out advertisements for a cryptocurrency scam.

Maybe the browser itself is OK. I've never used it.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by sanxiyn on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:32PM (#19579142)
You can use Brave without caring about cryptocurrency at all.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by who_what_why on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:21PM (#19579082)
How's the browser a scam? I use it and enjoy it. I think their business model is the most egalitarian business model amongst all browsers.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by jasonlotito on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:13AM (#19579640)
The collect money on someone's behalf, without that person knowing. It's a scam. It would be like me taking money on behalf of you. Only I wouldn't tell you. And now someone thinks they are paying you by going through me.

Seems like a scam.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by atomical on Monday April 08, 2019 @11:57PM (#19611661)
Blocking ads and depriving publishers of income is a scam. You are stealing from content creators. BAT gives more revenue to content creators than Google ever would.
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by yoasif_ on Monday April 15, 2019 @05:19AM (#19664119)
> Blocking ads and depriving publishers of income is a scam.

But this is literally what Brave does by default.

Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by thekyle on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:19AM (#19579661)
I'm not trying to take sides in this but here is a relevant thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
Re:Dear Mozilla, please stop spamming by vpzom on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:47PM (#19578923)
still chromium