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Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by darkerside on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:09AM (#19571176)
Writing like that, in a showboating over-the-top style, is effectively its own special genre. It's not supposed to be economical. It's not solely meant to communicate a specific message. It's the "hold my beer" of writing. It's the kind of writing other writers appreciate for what it is -- like the jokes that comics tell each other -- not meant for general consumption.

If you want to label it as "bad writing", you're certainly within your rights. But it's reductive, it misses the point, and worst of all, as an insult, it's rather boring.

Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by kirubakaran on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:24AM (#19572633)
That's a great description. Now I understand why I enjoy Steve Yegge's writing. At least one of the reasons, anyway. Thanks!
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by icelancer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:55AM (#19573792)
This is a good comparison. Imagine actors reading Yegge's blogs or the Java "in search of a nail" essay.

https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdo...

Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by empath75 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:48AM (#19571578)
Was someone accusing david Simon of being a bad writer?
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by village-idiot on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:26AM (#19572645)
Yes. Scroll down and try to read the low contrast entries at the bottom.
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by SilasX on Thursday April 04, 2019 @12:58PM (#19574534)
It seems to have completely disappeared.

Too bad, too, because I make the same criticism myself, of the New Yorker style of "make me wade through 500 words just for an inkling of what this is actually about". But yeah, it's a matter of taste.

Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by village-idiot on Thursday April 04, 2019 @01:15PM (#19574727)
Keep in mind that he’s writing to convince other writers, statistically you probably aren’t the target audience. My gym buddy who’s a professional tv writer says that this entry had a big impact on getting WGA to do something.
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by SilasX on Thursday April 04, 2019 @02:21PM (#19575476)
Fair enough, this is a case where it would actually be more correct to use that style!
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by Sebguer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:24AM (#19573388)
There's a heavily downvoted comment claiming this was poorly written.
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by adamsea on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:27AM (#19573430)
I would go even further and add -- "over-the-top" or "showboating" relative to what?

I think it's more that the consensus style of much business communication, technical documentation, and academic literature is very sparse and dry and focused. Which is most definitely a style and not a baseline which represents some sort of "normal".

You can make the argument that the style of the blog post supports its content and purpose by showing and emphasizing the outrage with Simon felt/feels.

So yeah, labelling it as "bad writing" is ridiculous. Agreed. : ).

Sorry for the rant - I have strong feelings about the written word : ).

Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by thanks1banks2 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:42AM (#19571504)
Non-native speaker. I loved the writing and find it engrossing!
Re:But I'm Not a Lawyer, I'm an Agent by rdiddly on Thursday April 04, 2019 @03:18PM (#19576087)
All his acclaim would seem to dismiss any thought that it's bad writing. Someone's boat must have no show if this is showboating. Someone's top must be pretty low if this is over it.

Although there are still a few things that jump out and you have to forgive. Like how I had to forgive Frank Sobotka's angry blue-veined diamond cutter. Actually I don't know that I've forgiven him for that even yet.