Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by JustSomeNobody on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:49PM
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> Somethings like spying on American phone calls (or just their "metadata") I agree with.
> But somethings like breaking encryption, exploiting iPhones, etc. while they may be used against Americans can also be used against others.
Both of these can have a chilling effect on free speech, therefore I'm against the CIA doing this to citizens. The potential threat against citizens nowhere near outweighs the need to uphold our constitution.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by mywittyname on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:29PM
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I think we all agree that they shouldn't do this to American citizens. The problem is we can't isolate their capabilities to just foreign persons.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by TremendousJudge on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:28PM
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As a "foreign person", I'd rather like for no organization to come and record everything I do just because I wasn't born in a specific place.
Ironically though, the average American citizen is probably under more CIA surveillance than the average foreign person such as myself.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by JustSomeNobody on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:34PM
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I'd rather we didn't either. If we trust you enough to let you visit, work, whatever, then we should treat you respectfully.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by saagarjha on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:42PM
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We could make doing this illegal and enforce it…
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by village-idiot on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:51PM
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Unfortunately, other nation states might not care about US laws. Which returns to the above statement that it’s better for the CIA and Apple to be in a security arms war than it is for Apple and the FSB, at least from the perspective of an American.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by blattimwind on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:10PM
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> Somethings like spying on American phone calls (or just their "metadata") I agree with.
Why keep pretending the CIA is a foreign intelligence service?
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015)
by richardwhiuk on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:39PM
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For some of us, it is.
But somethings like breaking encryption, exploiting iPhones, etc. while they may be used against Americans can also be used against others.
Essentially there's an arms race, and we use our tax money to sponsor our government in this race, with the hopes that they'll side with us. There really isn't another option unless you want to give a private entity this power, or not participate in the race (which I don't advise).