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Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by JustSomeNobody on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:49PM (#19556754)
> Somethings like spying on American phone calls (or just their "metadata") I agree with.

> But somethings like breaking encryption, exploiting iPhones, etc. while they may be used against Americans can also be used against others.

Both of these can have a chilling effect on free speech, therefore I'm against the CIA doing this to citizens. The potential threat against citizens nowhere near outweighs the need to uphold our constitution.

Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by mywittyname on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:29PM (#19557146)
I think we all agree that they shouldn't do this to American citizens. The problem is we can't isolate their capabilities to just foreign persons.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by TremendousJudge on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:28PM (#19557737)
As a "foreign person", I'd rather like for no organization to come and record everything I do just because I wasn't born in a specific place.

Ironically though, the average American citizen is probably under more CIA surveillance than the average foreign person such as myself.

Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by JustSomeNobody on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:34PM (#19557793)
I'd rather we didn't either. If we trust you enough to let you visit, work, whatever, then we should treat you respectfully.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by saagarjha on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:42PM (#19557275)
We could make doing this illegal and enforce it…
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets (2015) by village-idiot on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @02:51PM (#19557375)
Unfortunately, other nation states might not care about US laws. Which returns to the above statement that it’s better for the CIA and Apple to be in a security arms war than it is for Apple and the FSB, at least from the perspective of an American.