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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by sithadmin on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:09PM (#19537599)
If nothing else: there's a market for fighting back against this. KeyMe kiosks (usually found at US supermarkets, pharmacies, etc.) have had RFID fob/card cloning capabilities for a while now. You scan the fob/card at the kiosk, then they clone it to a sticker and send it to you via mail.
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by C14L on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:31PM (#19537770)
> clone it to a sticker and send it to you via mail.

So they have a database full of addresses together with their digital keys?

What could possibly go wrong...

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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by Cpoll on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:40PM (#19537841)
To be honest, not a lot, they only let you past the building door. So as a thief, I can: A. Scrub through a hypothetical leak of all that data, or B. Tailgate someone (even in security-conscious buildings this isn't much harder than following someone while carrying a box in both hands)

Locks are for honest people.

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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by jib on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:19PM (#19538101)
Until you live in an apartment complex that has eliminated keys. My place is all keyfobs (except for the mailbox).
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by BurningFrog on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:08PM (#19538031)
So it can be used to steal or deliver packages.
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by Scoundreller on Sunday March 31, 2019 @09:14PM (#19539621)
Letting people get into the locker room or bike room can create issues.

You can get a great lock, but what they lock into is usually a very weak link.

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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by closeparen on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:21PM (#19537697)
Interesting. I wonder if they have actually productized the security research on HID iClass, etc. or if they are only supporting simpler credentials with no cryptography.
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by ma2rten on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:49PM (#19537904)
Does this also work for company badges?
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by sithadmin on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @10:29AM (#19554426)
In theory, it could. Depends on whether the particular RFID standard used is supported by KeyMe or not. At a glance, they didn't seem to have much info available on what is/isn't supported.
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by MR4D on Monday April 01, 2019 @04:43AM (#19541550)
I wonder what they do with the data after they’ve mailed you the sticker.
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Re:A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilize... by Doxin on Monday April 01, 2019 @05:44AM (#19541768)
Most RFID keyfobs simply contain a serial number (possibly encrypted or signed) and nothing more. There's not a lot of use in stealing a random number. They'd have to be in cahoots with the people running the lock software to gain anything by it.
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