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Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by ldite on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:48AM (#19520768)
It's not a "meaningful vote" today (29th) - it's only a vote on the withdrawal agreement, not the political declaration. According to the Attorney General that means it's not a "meaningful vote" as previously defined.

And it's going to be voted down, of course.

Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by Sahhaese on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:55AM (#19520801)
It's not a "meaningful vote" as defined by section 13(4) of the Withdrawl Act but it's effectively the same thing. It's a meaningful vote from the perspective of the EU becuase they don't care about the PD anyway.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by ethbro on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:54AM (#19520796)
Whatever happened to the speaker's declaration that the government couldn't keep bringing up the same bill?

Is this actually different, or did everyone forget that?

Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by nmeofthestate on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:58AM (#19520819)
This is not a repeat, it is some kind of sneaky half-vote just on the WA that will not ensure an orderly Brexit on May 22.

It appears that Theresa May is trying to run the clock past the April deadline for a long delay, so we're back in a "her deal or no deal" situation. Then again the EU will probably not stand for that.

Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by oarsinsync on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:17AM (#19520950)
A European Commission spokesman said: "The withdrawal agreement negotiated between both parties is indeed both necessary and sufficient to ensure the orderly withdrawal of the UK."
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by nicky0 on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:10AM (#19520900)
No what she actually wants is to pass this motion today so we can fix the May 22 leaving date and then we can move to the next stage. But seems the other parties are determined to continue playing political games instead.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by dragonwriter on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:09AM (#19520890)
> Whatever happened to the speaker's declaration that the government couldn't keep bringing up the same bill?

That's why they are voting on the withdrawal agreement by itself. They haven't done that before.

Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by Sahhaese on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:57AM (#19520807)
The government rules-lawyed it to be different by moving only the WA part rather than the WA+PD which it previously insisted had to be voted on together.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by nicky0 on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:08AM (#19520882)
Bercow ruled yesterday that today's motion is sufficiently different.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by renholder on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:02AM (#19520841)
I think that was part of the agreement on the new measures: If no measures pass, default to MV3.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by nicky0 on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:08AM (#19520885)
No, that was not the case and this is not MV3.
Re:Brexit – where now? The flow diagrams by digianarchist on Friday March 29, 2019 @08:10AM (#19520897)
The EU have said they will continue with just the WA they don't need the political declaration.