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Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by a1369209993 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:34PM (#19508986)
> Real Programmers use FORTRAN.

Ahem. No. Real Programmers use machine code.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html

Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by tomcam on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:03AM (#19510239)
The story features a programmer who coded in hexadecimal. It sounds a little apocryphal, but I worked with such a man myself – Tim Paterson, the creator of QDOS, which became MS-DOS. At the time he was on the Visual Basic compiler team at Microsoft, and I would go into his office while he was looking at hex dumps, which he found faster than reading disassembly.
Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by Gibbon1 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:51AM (#19510423)
I haven't thought of this in years. Sr Engineer wanted me to build a 'chamber simulator'. IE simulates a pressure chamber with a bunch of valves and interlocks.

Wanted me to implement it with analog circuits and jungle logic.

I went fuck that and hand built a board with an 8051. Wrote the program in assembly on paper. Hand translated it to hex. And then used a hex editor to generate the hex file. Which I used to burn the epprom. Took two days to debug it.

Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by taneq on Thursday March 28, 2019 @12:46AM (#19509353)
I love that story. In fact the whole Jargon File is a great source of elder geek lore. Another good source is http://www.folklore.org/ for tales of the original Mac development team.
Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by elygre on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:54AM (#19510440)
Real programmers have a shortcut on C-x M-c M-butterfly.
Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by analognoise on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:57PM (#19509110)
Real programmers only use punch cards for Jacquard looms.
Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by leeman2016 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:41AM (#19509568)
> Real Programmers wrote in machine code. Not FORTRAN. Not RATFOR. Not, even, assembly language. Machine Code. Raw, unadorned, inscrutable hexadecimal numbers. Directly.

Reading that brings back one of the best memories of my childhood.

Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by eesmith on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:06PM (#19516604)
The first Real Programmers used decimal, and programmed on the plugboards and portable function tables of the ENIAC. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC .

The next Real Programmers programmed in octal, and sometime made mistakes balancing their checkbook by doing octal instead of decimal mathematics. See https://www.agnesscott.edu/lriddle/women/hopper.htm .

You'll notice that Hopper and the ENIAC programmers are women. Programming at this time was seen as a woman's job.

Then it became seen as a career for men. The early women programmers were overlooked; the ENIAC programmers weren't named in the early photos, and believed to be models - 'Refrigerator Ladies'. See http://mentalfloss.com/article/53160/meet-refrigerator-ladie... .

As computers became more powerful, hex became the de facto. Much of the 'heroic literature of the olden days' comes from this era, so we view history through a decidedly - to quote the link text - "macho" lens.

While it's certainly an enjoyable story, if we repeat it without the context, we continue to obscure the work of the first Real Programmers, and we propagate the false implication that "Real Programming" is intertwined with concepts of masculinity.

Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by Gibbon1 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:40AM (#19510381)
A real programmer can write FORTRAN 77 in any language.

Actual thing. Friend of mine is retired black female programmer who mentioned hot patching assembly on IBM mainframes back in the late 60's.

Re:Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982) by ido on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:03AM (#19510478)
What is the relevance of her being black & female to the anecdote?