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Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by sagichmal on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:31PM (#19506274)
We do, collectively, as a society.

Sometimes we'll get it wrong, and need to correct it. That's fine. We're capable of that.

What's not fine is throwing up our hands at even the concept of performing that judgment, because it's subjective or whatever. That cedes the public square to extremists, which results in a shittier society.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by beat on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:37PM (#19506322)
And observational data suggests that American society (and global society) has gotten better, not worse, at this judgment.

When we started this game, we had slaves, who were defined as three fifths of a human being for purposes of political representation of slave owners. Voting was restricted to white land-owning men. It's getting better.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by sadris on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:53PM (#19506481)
We as a society decided homosexual advocacy was dangerous speech just decades ago. We were so enlightened then, right?
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by anigbrowl on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:03PM (#19507623)
'Let's do gay sex' vs 'let's kill people in group X' seems like one of those apples and oranges comparisons people are always talking about.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by samaItman on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:31PM (#19507824)
This comment goes against HN guidelines.

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Consider this a warning, as we eventually ban accounts of repeat offenders.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by sagichmal on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:24PM (#19507773)
No, we got that one wrong. But, now we're on the path to correcting it. This is good and just and how things should work.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by sadris on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @09:26PM (#19508230)
What's wrong and what's right? Who defines it? When? And why?
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by dqpb on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:44PM (#19506393)
So, popular vote? Let our representatives decide? Something else?
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by beat on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:50PM (#19506451)
Our representatives. Our judicial system. Our public institutions. Our private businesses.

You're WAY too hung up on this "who decides?" question, ignoring the reality that either someone has to decide, or that no one should decide and society should simply not regulate speech in any way, ever.

Good luck with the latter if you ever have kids.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by dqpb on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @06:21PM (#19506745)
If we do get there, I hope we can ban the most dangerous speech of all - religion.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by dqpb on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:55PM (#19506498)
Ah, but the devil is in the details.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by beat on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @06:56PM (#19507073)
And you're still dodging the fundamental questions I asked you a while back. You're just playing devil's advocate in the details. It's a lame and boring argument.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by sagichmal on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:47PM (#19506417)
All of the above, and more. Organizations like Facebook can decide to deplatform white nationalists, and we can vote with our clicks or whatever in response to that. You and I can get on message boards and advocate for what we think is just. Over time we all shape our society in our image.