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Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by trhway on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:20PM (#19497154)
> that they are entirely responsible for changes in loneliness.

loneliness? The amount and richness of communication like the number of participants, number of parallel communications, number of the topics and the range of opinions, etc. is most probably much higher when using smartphones then when it is subject to the limitations of physical presence. Our species brain development is basically history of social communication, and the smartphones transcending those limits of physical presence is the next step for the brain development of our species. Granted the adjustment period may have its quirks, like absence of non-verbal parts of communication - face emotions, gestures, etc. - that our brain evolved to expect and not receives anymore and thus doesn't get the associated dopamine - may feel like loneliness.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by stiglitz on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:37PM (#19497246)
It’s hazardous and frankly inhuman to boil down human interaction into metrics like “number of participants.”

I’m amused by this notion that “it may feel like loneliness but it’s actually the richness of our new modes of communication you are feeling! Just get used to it!”

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by euske on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:02PM (#19497358)
It just occurred to me that virtual interaction is like a vitamin pill. There should be a right amount of human interaction, at right timings, in a right way. But today it's happening too often and/or too much, and the type of interactions is limited. Just like vitamins, it's easy to overdose. The best way to take nutrition/interaction is through natural ways because it gives you other kinds of nutrition and there's less risk of overdose, etc.
Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by nradov on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:16PM (#19497425)
I don't think vitamins are a good example here. It's really tough to overdose on OTC vitamins. But most people derive no health benefit from vitamin supplements.

As for human interaction, the "right" amount is different for everyone.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by saagarjha on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:27AM (#19499219)
> There should be a right amount of human interaction, at right timings, in a right way. But today it's happening too often and/or too much, and the type of interactions is limited. Just like vitamins, it's easy to overdose.

This is true of most things.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by trhway on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:52PM (#19497309)
>It’s hazardous and frankly inhuman to boil down human interaction into metrics like “number of participants.”

the tech today allows to for example easily and frequently Skype with your family, like parents, sibling, nephews residing on the other continent. A humongous improvement compare to previous modes of expensive international phone, especially when many of those participants didn't have a phone back then. What is inhuman here?

It also allowed for communication like we have here on HN. Before, it would be limited to just watercooler chat with colleagues at work with very limited exposure and exploration of genuine opposite/conflicting opinions, whereis we can have a bleeding-trolling-edge blast online.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by Retric on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:07PM (#19497374)
An in person hug with a close friend or family member is worth a lot. Phone calls have been around for a long time and still miss out on such things. Cellphones provide some benifit, but often reduce the quality of face to face interactions by distracting one or more participants.
Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by tqkxzugoaupvwqr on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:03PM (#19497363)
Just because you can communicate with someone doesn’t mean you don’t feel lonely.
Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by stiglitz on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:43PM (#19497537)
This is the most concise statement of the problem with communication technology I’ve ever read.
Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by jmoss20 on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:55PM (#19497321)
> "... may feel like loneliness."

Isn't the feeling the whole point?

It's a bit strange to claim that, even though some people might feel lonely, they aren't /actually/. Lonely is a word that refers to an emotion -- not a word that refers to the circumstances that tend to bring about that emotion.

I'll grant you that if we had a perfect account of what those circumstances were, the two might be identical (for a physicalist, anyway). But that some people "may feel lonely" even now is a proof by counterexample that your account is not it.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by toomanybeersies on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @07:26PM (#19507327)
I feel that GP has confused loneliness with being alone, when they are two very different concepts.

It's absolutely possible to be alone and not feel lonely, possibly because one is an introvert or because they gain social fulfilment from online interaction.

On the other hand it's also absolutely possible to be surrounded with people, and even have rich social interaction with them, and still feel lonely. This could be simply due to interacting with the wrong people, but can also be symptomatic of mental health issues such as depressive or anxiety disorders.

Re:U.S. teens are spending less time with their friends in p... by toomanybeersies on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @07:34PM (#19507388)
Humans need to interact physically (not necessarily with touch, but with proximity) with other humans. We are social animals.

Communication and interaction in social relationships is not just about information exchange. Non-verbal interaction (touch, gestures, physical closeness) are just as essential, if not more essential than verbal/text interaction for the majority of people.